Here we go again with loose interpretations and violations of the 2nd
Amendment … this time in Oregon.
Introducing Executive Order 16 – 12, signed in by new gun-grabbing Democratic Governor of Oregon Kate Brown.
From a report on Guns.com, here are the 3 directives inside this insidious package of precarious gun legislation…
To help conquer gun violence, Brown signed Executive Order 16-12 which comprises three separate directives.
First, the Oregon State Police will be directed to retain firearms transactions data – now required for even private sales – for five years, establishing a defacto if temporary firearms registry. As part of the mandate, the agency will also use data from federal law enforcement agencies to trace all firearms recovered as part of criminal investigations.
Next, under Brown’s order, OSP will expand how it follows up on potential prohibited possessors to include launching criminal investigations and sharing data with other agencies and prosecutors. This is an expansion of a state police policy implemented by Kitzhaber’s administration in 2014 where in the event of a denial by the state’s Firearm Instant Check System, state troopers would be dispatched from patrol to the dealer’s location to investigate.
As the third part of her order, Brown directed the Oregon Health Authority to study firearms related deaths or crimes and their effect on public health, reporting to the Governor’s office should they need more mandates to do so. This comes in hand with an effort to expand how the state looks at gun-related domestic violence offenses and how those offenses can disqualify some from obtaining a concealed handgun license or a firearms transfer.
Emphasis ours.
Studying firearms related deaths for their effect on “public” health, and investigating the need for EVEN MORE mandates?
Gun-related deaths are tragic, and especially when irresponsible gun owners exacerbate the situation.
But to sign into law legislation that opens the door for even more legislation? That is walking into 2nd Amendment territory there.
People like Brown think that taking guns off the streets will solve all the world’s problems … but criminals don’t care about that.
This is yet another attempt to disarm the responsible gun owners in Oregon, and will only make the criminal element stronger.
Way to go, Governor.
As a veteran, Patriot and American who lives, breaths, supports and defends our Constitution, I say this! Governor Brown can pull all the “Obama Tactics” she likes. Her “Executive Actions” only have the power of ink on paper. She does not have the authority to override the U.S. Constitution or the 2nd Amendment. My response to this is, “MOLON LABE”, lady! “I WILL NOT COMPLY” now or ever to your ludicrous, illegal actions.
An unarmed public, is an enslaved populace!
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
you are 100% correct.
Unfortunately, Oregon Patriot, they WILL come and take your guns, especially in Oregon, no matter how defiant or how loud you shout Molon Labe.
The showed you how they will do it last year. Oregon Police State troopers wearing ISIS style masks, supervised by FBI ‘special’ teams did it They simply hunted down, ambushed, and murdered one of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge Patriots’ leaders while descending upon the peaceful protesters with enough tactical overkill firepower, air power, and military equipment to launch a special ops attack on a terrorist city in Iraq!
And these were not BLACK lives M racist anarchists who were throwing bricks and molotov cocktails and injuring poice in riots in other major cities at the time…WHO WERENT EVEN ARRESTED!!! These were non-violent civil protestors against abusive corrupt government land management agencies against ranchers out West, who were out in the middle of nowhere just trying to make a statement by camping out?
They then captured at least 90 of the ?participating Patriot demonstrators afterward confiscating their weapons on trumped up domestic terrorist charges that most have already copped to lesser felony rather than face 20 years in prison.
In any case, they definately MOLON LABE-ed the fuck out of the rights of these citizens.
Street rioting and anarchy is one thing. They even like it happening as a foundation for future false flag scenarios to precipitate Martial Law, when they need it to politically protect their regime, BUT!, and it’s a big fat one, THERE WILL BE NO TOLERANCE FOR NASCENT ‘REVOLUTION’ TYPE DEMONSTRATIONS.
They will crush and totally eliminate this form of social dissent forthwith and terminally. The plans are already in effect. They even use military (Jade Helm exercises) personnel as they train for this.
But the para- militarization of the local Police State leo agencies is almost worse than the government military forces. An important side bar of the tragic Dallas officer shootings went all but unnoticed in terms of the potential detriment to our civil rights. Did anyone notice? Along with the way Oregon handles 1st and 2nd Amendment rights, It was the absolute beginning of the end for any physical revolution ever getting started in this country again.
I get frustrated with all these Molon Labe’ers. Instead of wasting their time with useless ‘Mouthollution’, they’d be better off and much more patriotic helping a ‘Jeffersonian Revolutionary’ cause.
By using their time and energy to convince their family, friends, and neighbors to get out and vote the current regime out befoe it’s too late. And/Or join and support one of these PAC groups that takes down corrupted totalitarian governors like this one in Oregon. Filiing lawsuits and re-calls like they did in Colorado and too few other venues.
THAT’s what gets results.
State laws do not trump Federal Second Amendment laws and rights. Laws intended to harass good citizens, and make things more expensive and discourage good citizen to not be armed create more safety for terrorists and criminals.
Do legislation that will make life miserable for bad people not good. If political leaders think disarming good people lead and disarm their own body guards and arm them with baseball bats. Disarm our own military and see if that causes other nations to become rainbow love people and become disarmed new friends that love us more!
Democrates are not realistic. They want HIPPA laws to protect mentally ill threats from ever being able to show up on background checks.
It is sort of like protecting murderers, and true genocide practitioners by fronting for abortion which kills far more innocent people than Hitler was ever guilty of!
Democrates have outlived their usefulness, and cause people like trump to emerge.
I’m not a Republican just incredibly against lying, criminal crime syndicate operation like the secretive Clinton Foundation
You’re wrong, TOM! Think about what you are saying about a person’s private medical information being available as a criteria for denying your firearms purchase?
Especially when a government paid/provider can easily determine a deleterious evaluation for potentially dangerous flawed emotional content or mental deficiency disorder, or potentially harmful psychological disorders due to any number of things from stress, excessive alchohol consumption, anxiety, depression, to prescription heart and high bp meds, etc. etc. etc.
for Like…about half the damn population! Just take a slippery slope look at the form 4473 for a preview of what’s coming soon, to a theater near you…with that kind of ‘thinking’.
I”m american
As the old saying goes, she can have my firearms when SHE pries them from my cold dead fingers. By the way, I qualified expert on Rifle, Pistol, and special weapons. Good luck Governor Brown (by the way are you related to that idiot, the Governor of Californication?). Guess we will have to start calling the state Oregone Bye Bye.
Bill, you won’t get a choice of who, or which agency SWATKILL team that will do the prying from your cold dead fingers.
But they’ll ‘git ‘er done’. one way or another. And if they think you actually might be a trained shooter, instead of the usuall suspects of ‘Chairborne Moutholution Rangers’ or ex military combat Vet, then they’ll just use their latest toy on you. Like they did in Texas recently.
Why don’t you just get a few of your friends and family and hang out in front of you Representative’s office with signs until she/he addresses this treasonous action by Oregon’s government?
They can have mine but it will be bullets first!
A vote for killary is a vote for a terriost time to take America back from the dumbass DEMO-CRAPS
I would say this to the social diseased insane and mentality deficient idiot, E S O D. You are a sick
demented individual who does not have the mental capacity to comprehend our Constitution
nor what it entails. Before you make a bigger ass of yourself I strongly suggest you take a
course in the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights. Perhaps
if you laid off the Kook Aid and actually lived in the real world outside of the mental asylum
you reside in you might comprehend why we the People have the RIGHT to KEEP AND BEAR
ARMS. It is to stop idiots such as yourself from seizing power as has happened in many other
countries around the world that are controlled by dictators today. WE ARE A FREE PEOPLE
AND YOU WILL NEVER GET OUR MEANS OF DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANTS.
The Gun Control Farce
Surely murder is a serious subject, which ought to be examined seriously. Instead, it is almost always examined politically in the context of gun control controversies, with stock arguments on both sides that have remained the same for decades. And most of those arguments are irrelevant to the central question: Do tighter gun control laws reduce the murder rate?
That is not an esoteric question, nor one for which no empirical evidence is available. Think about it. We have 50 states, each with its own gun control laws, and many of those laws have gotten either tighter or looser over the years. There must be tons of data that could indicate whether murder rates went up or down when either of these things happened.
But have you ever heard any gun control advocate cite any such data? Tragically, gun control has become one of those fact-free issues that spawn outbursts of emotional rhetoric and mutual recriminations about the National Rifle Association or the Second Amendment.
If restrictions on gun ownership do reduce murders, we can repeal the Second Amendment, as other Constitutional Amendments have been repealed. Laws exist to protect people. People do not exist to perpetuate laws.
But if tighter restrictions on gun ownership do not reduce murders, what is the point of tighter gun control laws — and what is the point of demonizing the National Rifle Association?
There are data not only from our 50 states but also from other countries around the world. Professor Joyce Lee Malcolm’s empirical study, “Guns and Violence: The English Experience,” should be eye-opening for all those who want their eyes opened, however small that number of people might be.
Professor Malcolm’s book also illustrates the difference between isolated, cherry-picked facts and relevant empirical evidence.
Many gun control advocates have cited the much higher murder rates in the United States than in England as due to tighter gun control laws in England. But Professor Malcolm’s study points out that the murder rate in New York has been some multiple of the murder rate in London for two centuries — and, during most of that time, neither city had serious restrictions on gun ownership.
As late as 1954, “there were no controls on shotguns” in England, Professor Malcolm reported, but only 12 cases of armed robbery in London. Of these only 4 had real guns. But in the remainder of the 20th century, gun control laws became ever more severe — and armed robberies in London soared to 1,400 by 1974.
“As the numbers of legal firearms have dwindled, the numbers of armed crimes have risen” is her summary of that history in England. Conversely, in the United States the number of handguns in American homes more than doubled between 1973 and 1992, while the murder rate went down.
There are relevant facts available, but you are not likely to hear about them from politicians currently pushing for tighter gun control laws, or from the mainstream media, when those facts go against the claims of gun control advocates.
Despite hundreds of thousands of times a year when Americans use firearms defensively, none of those incidents is likely to be reported in the mainstream media, even when lives are saved as a result. But one accidental firearm death in a home will be broadcast and rebroadcast from coast to coast.
Virtually all empirical studies in the United States show that tightening gun control laws has not reduced crime rates in general or murder rates in particular. Is this because only people opposed to gun control do empirical studies? Or is it because the facts uncovered in empirical studies make the arguments of gun control zealots untenable?
In both England and the United States, those people most zealous for tighter gun control laws tend also to be most lenient toward criminals and most restrictive on police. The net result is that law-abiding citizens become more vulnerable when they are disarmed and criminals disobey gun control laws, as they disobey other laws.
The facts are too plain to be ignored. Moreover, the consequences are too dangerous to law-abiding citizens, whose lives are put in jeopardy on the basis of fact-free assumptions and unexamined dogmas. Such arguments are a farce, but not the least bit funny.
Whether murder rates rise or fall – Americans still have a right to arms.
If murder rates rise, will politicians dispose of their armed security to make the world safe?
Of course not, neither will American citizens, who have an equal right to armed security.
You will find that as rates rise, a large part of the problem in violent crime is from repeat offenders. Keep them locked up.
In the end, they will outlaw citizen ownership of EFFECTIVE arms. No second amendment is required to own low capacity, limited sporting arms as those that are “allowed” in EuroSocialist countries. The progressive reinterpretation is that as long as you have a limited sporting arm, you have 2A rights. NOT SO!
The second amendment is a right to POWER. It is a right to firearms that ENABLE A CAPABILITY! To not only provide personal security, but to collectively keep secure American freedoms. Firearms affording the ability to repel foreign invasion, personally survive and collectively quell violent riots, and to INSURE that we are not the victims of the atrocities of the next Nazi, Soviet, or Red Chinese regimes. Americans are not helpless “refugees” to be lined up and beheaded.
Governments are capable of oppression and atrocities, and they EVOLVE to that point. Early on, they disarm their citizens.
You speak “matter of factly” – “If restrictions on gun ownership do reduce murders, we can repeal the Second Amendment”
I’m sure the progressive socialist democrat party would enthusiastically agree with you!
The millions of law abiding gun owners would probably INSIST on DISAGREEING with you!
The NY SAFE Act has a 4% compliance rate.
An armed standoff would be the result.
RIGHTLY SO!
The thing about the second amendment is that it is in place to insure that if our government evolves toward oppression, Americans have effective firearms to SHOOT to keep their rights.
There is absolutely nothing about surrendering them to the first socialist bastard that tries taking them. Even if the slanderous reason given is for safety through lower murder rates, or so we can all be harmless to schoolchildren.
PS – Most of the murders are due to inner city drug gang turf war shootings – after gun control those will be the only Americans still armed, or were you naive enough to think they would turn in their illegal guns.
Love it!!!! This needs to be on face book where it will be seen and passed on to every State in the union. You have some great facts that is needed to be share. My hat is off to you. Thanks for sharing that information.
The idea of ‘gun-control’ as defined by the anti-gunners, is ludicrous to begin with. It is already illegal to kill, rob, assault, threaten someone with violence, and the other crimes they claim to want to stop. I am a freedom loving, patriotic, Constitution believing American with GOD-GIVEN rights, not state approved rights. Will the left ever learn to read well enough to realize that “shall not be infringed” means what it says?? I doubt it. However the 2A is my God given right to buy, own, possess, use, carry, claim, and enjoy rifles, knives, handguns, shotguns, and a litany of weapons.
This is insane. Another Gov Brown!!!! The one we have here in California is bad enough. What is it with Brown? Now you know where the expression ‘S**t for brains’ comes from. If it’s brown, wipe it.
I’m sorry, Oregon.
Remember the next election will be here soon. Brown can be history soon!
Kate Brown is a communist and murderer! Anyone who abides by her gun law is nothing but the same!
Police shootings are not only a matter of race but more importantly a return of the Atrocities of the British Empire Laws and lack of Representation for which we fought the American Revolution to seperate ourselves from their tyranny! Their law officers had only night sticks to enforce their laws!
Our police of today have Night Sticks, Tazers, Hand Guns, Personal Bullet Proof Armor, High Power Tactical Rifles, Radar, and Bomb disabling Robots in their Tools of Enforcement! But more Importantly they have Computers in their Vehicles that can access ALL information about any suspect or person of interest as to any information whether Factual or Falsified to form a Prejudicial impression as to how they should address a specific Situation, Vehicular or Criminal!
Add to that, poorly trained officers both in the operation of Radar but more specifically the complete UNDERSTANDING of the State Laws and the Laws pertaining to the RIGHTS of the People as Stated in the U.S.Constitution and the FAILURE of our Judges to RESPECT and PRESERVE those RIGHTS, are most surely the MAIN and FINAL CAUSE of ALL POLICE SHOOTINGS,without question???
Only Oregon voters can fix this mistake,vote this progressive ding-a-ling out of office,work against her and do what ever it takes to get her out of office.
James Maxwell ur a sick individual u dumbass killary supports terriosim and if she gets in thats what America gets
“Public health” is the new buzzword gun grabbers are using to move their agenda forward. That agenda? Remove all firearms from private citizens.
Why everyone on here unstands the problem better than are fill in politician ,guns are not.
I live in Oregon. Beautiful state, dumbest politics..our liberal leaders think they can pass any law and it is not for the constitution or federal review. MOTO >>>KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD — too bad portland voters control the whole state.. we are currently in court to prove that oregon laws cannot preempt federal statute..problem , (surprise) – we have liberal leaning judges here in our state.
That’s what you idiots get and what you deserve when you vote in nothing but a piece of road kill, cesspool parasite! A woman governor are you brain dead voters or what. I guess you parasites will vote for Hildabeast. If you do and own any guns, turn them all in your to damn stupid to ever own any!
I think it is incredibly sad, that leaders think a piece of paper signed by this nitwit, trumps our rights.
I’m sorry for you Oregon, you will soon be known as the northern part of the Republic of California! A state just like a Bannana Republic with a dictator! Don’t put this evil bubblebrain witch back in office, maybe even a recall!
well democrats know they are braking our laws and fear for there own safety , they don’t care about the people getting murdered , they are worried they will be next , if we the people finally get the shits of there bull shit, you can’t take over a country if the people are armed
Gun Control has nothing to do with guns! It is “All” about People Control. Every evil government in the history of mankind first disarmed their citizens, and then undertook to round up and kill all who they believed would not obey their orders, Period! Look it up, it is all in the history books, if you can find them.
..any and all attempts to publicly question the 2nd Amendment automatically places the blabbermouthing inquisitor into Criminal Capacity, which allows the ordinary Citizen to remove them from office, if not from existence…
We “know the Rightness and Truth of her Righteous words”. Excuse me while I throw up. Since guns are only for killing, no-one should have guns, not the general population, not security, not police (in the recent court room murder, if the bailiff and others had not been armed, there would have been no murder), not secrete service, not government, reductio ad absurdum. However, government does support criminals having guns (fast and furious).
First and foremost, WHAT THEY REALLY – REALLY WANT, is the confiscation list!
In NY City, ALL FIREARMS ARE REGISTERED.
Every time they tighten restrictions:
Our records show that you are in possession of a firearm that is now illegal. You have 30 days to turn it in to NYPD, or show proof of it’s removal from the jurisdiction.
In NY State:
IF YOU LIKE YOUR ASSAULT WEAPON – YOU CAN KEEP YOUR ASSAULT WEAPON! (But by law it must now be registered with the state police – for safety)
OUTRIGHT CONFISCATION IS A POSSIBILITY!
NO ONE NEEDS 10 BULLETS TO KILL A DEER!
7 ROUND LIMIT
THEY WILL NEVER STOP
Every new restriction, every sensible “common sense” regulation – IS A PUSH DOWN ANOTHER STEP ON THE STAIRCASE TO CITIZEN DISARMAMENT! (And it is a ONE WAY staircase – GOING DOWN!)
It is in everyway all the dumd crooked democrap losercan do to rule us like puppets on strings .But the demo-rats r figured it out that there in deep shit if they do
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people guns are just the tool that some people use, what about knives, baseball bats, screw drivers, poison, tie irons and other objects that are used to kill will the stupid Governors pass a bill to confiscate all of these items
Guns don”t kill people, people kill people guns are just the tools used, what about the other items used like baseball bats, screw drivers, poison, tire irons and all the other items people use are the Governors going to pass a bill to confiscate these items, responsible people who own guns have had training on the use and care of these items and responsible people do not go out and shoot other people just for fun
I know another Brown, Governor Moonie for the golden showers state of Caliporkya.
He thinks he’s going to ban rifles and clips with +ten capacity. We’ll
be seeing the commie-pinko in court. He is also going to require back round
checks for ammunition purchases. Totally unconstitutional on free trade alone.
Less we forget what the now, anti gun English did to the Native Americans. Wake up ! They thought they had the right answers to move ahead then & wrote law to justify their actions. It’s just history repeating itself. Back then they called them reservations, today fema camps. Collect, control, isolate, justify…to match their laws….for their greater good.
I regret that I only have one life to give to my country!!!
What Oregon’s governor has done is a violation of the Second Amendment. That Second Amendment is a part of he original Constitution and is a RIGHT that cannot be changed at all forever.
Oregon trying hard to be more like krazy kalifornia, home of more of this…
A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots! AND TYRANTS AND BUREAUCRAPS!!!
If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the media panders to your openly socialist leader while the IRS targets groups with dissenting views— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If your government ‘cracks down’ on legal gun sales to law abiding citizens while secretly supplying illegal guns to Mexican drug cartels— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If your local government (Chicago) outlawed gun ownership for ‘the safety of its citizens’ and now boasts the worst murder rate in the country — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
What a country!
How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America?
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She looks like a “perky” sorority girl And she has just as much inteligence and wisdom.
“There is a way that seemeth right to man. But the end, thereof, is destruction”
So the facts are in. England and Australia have banned good people having guns. And the murder rate is HIGHER. They just don’t use guns. And the crime rate it up. It would appear that criminals don’t hestitate to make victims, since there is almost no chance their victims can defend themselves.
So the very government that should be defending the GOOD people is doing exactly what endangers the good citizens
This has little to do with makeing things safer for us and much to do with controlling our lives from the cradle to the grave
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