You know what’s wonderful about technology?
The rate of change and pace of innovation almost ALWAYS outpaces the speed of regulators and dictators that want to oppress the people!
Here is today’s case in point:
Military Arms and The “NFA Nut Kicker!”
The guy from MilitaryArms talks about how the NFA is not only and infringement on our rights, but also COMPLETELY outdated because of today’s technology. He shows an AR-15 pistol with a short barrel, brace, and Echo trigger plus silencer. The only registered item on the gun is the silencer. Check it out:
With Modern Technology, You Can Get Basically a “Full Auto” Trigger in Your AR-15!
There’s now a number of these triggers.
Apparently, how they work is they fire when you pull the trigger AND they fire when you release the trigger.
Iraqveteran8888 says they can be best described as a mechanical “response” trigger, firing one round on the pull and one round on the release in the third position. I didn’t know this was paintball tech before it was real gun tech!
FosTech Echo Trigger
In this video, he reviews the FosTech Echo Trigger that was seen in the NFA Nut Kicker AR-15 …
Franklin Armory Binary Trigger (BFS III)
In this video Hank Strange tests/demos the Franklin Armory Binary Trigger (BFS III) in three different AR-15’s. Guns used in this video are the Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22 (22lr rifle) Stag Arms Model 9T (9mm Carbine) and the Stag Arms Model 3T-M (223 Rifle). (The 9mm rifle was the only one that had any reliability issues)
If You Want To Go Full Auto Without Spending $10,000 Or More On a “Machine Gun” These Triggers Are Your Best Choice!
The fact is that full-auto guns are super expensive.
These triggers that simulate full-auto are much, much less expensive and can do pretty much the same thing.
My only question — as always — would be reliability. But it looks like they’re pretty reliable.
What do you think?
I think this is something like a release trigger in shotguns, only combined with a normal trigger. I don’t like release triggers at all because unless you know what it is and train with it, you’ll find it to function differently than your expectations. And that is the sort of thing that causes accidents. So the owner trains and is good with it. Somebody else needs the weapon and hits his target – then sends one into the scenery as he releases the trigger. Just what we don’t want as a shooter, just what we don’t need as a law abiding movement of gun owners.
I think for aimed fire an AR is plenty fast in semi auto mode. My two cents.
Calling this binary trigger “full auto” for click bait is irresponsible and stupid. I have two Echo triggers fully prepaid on order. There is a waiting list. Stupid articles like this could get the BATFE to recall the letter of approval they have issued for this trigger group.
Yes, I agree, CaptTubo, The nature of the marketing ‘beast’ is always like that. But the best way to solve that problem is for The Donald to fire the ATF en masse, and get Congress to start repealing ALL gun control, especially the Mother of all Totalitarian gun control laws…the 1968 GCA and the Brady Bill, which allows ‘THEM’ to make unconstitutional laws which make potential anti-Tyranny dissidents criminals, so that they can effectively disarm a dissenting citizenry with the ’68GCA.
Maybe disbanding the enforcement of the 1934 totalitarian agenda NFA law will go forward with Trump now that he’s on a roll by firing the FBI Surveillance State Fascist Director????
Then we don’t have to worry about silencers, and full auto, or any other infringement on our 2//A rights?
We gotta move fast. It could all change again as soon as 2018. California and New York are setting the paradigm for outright confiscation By test flying super draconian ownership Surveillance of ammo purchases and firearms locations tracking that can then be rapidly expanded nationwide when the totalitarian Leftists get back in.
This is a good article for the “Spray and Pray” shooters only, even the US Army went to a 3 round burst instead of full auto because of waste of ammo. Too many rounds coming out of the barrel does not make a good shooter, what it makes is a sloppy shooter.
I agree with Jim’s comments completely. When I pull the trigger, particularly in a “confined” environment, I want only one round fired. If in full auto I would not be firing a precisely aimed shot at a single object.
No info on where to get them , and ordering with price list and different rifles .
I have a AR 180 sterling , some parts are compatible with the 15 & 16. Will
this binary trigger (BFS111) fit my 180 with out to much work?
Try this on , I have a ccw ,have been checked by Washington arms collectors . I was still denied twice the ability to buy a rifle ? .
Before messing about with “full automatic firearms”, learn to hit a target every time, in semiautomatic mode, or better yet, with a manually operated action, bolt action for instance.
Don’t go there!!
I am 76 years old 12 year army vet fraught at Hamburger Hill in1969 with th 101st Airborne. I have had a lot of fun with the M60 Rambo style and my grease guns but they are controllable these bumpstocks and binary triggers aren’t . Gun CONTROL is .
what the shooter must have . These add-ons came from paintball and that is where they belong send them back. We need to show responsible gun educate and fight for full 2nd AMMENDMENT rights, this kiddy stuff just gives the banners more trash to through around. There way to many illiterates who will joi the banners if we gove them the chaff to cloud their low intelligences?
Totally tone deaf repost of this product’s advert. Just give the lefties another excuse to push for more control… just for some “clickbait”… We legitimate, educated gun owners know this is not a full auto conversion ( and of dubious real world utility), but the IDIOTS that call every semiauto rifle with a pistol grip an ASSAULT RIFLE won’t. Just throwing more fuel on a fire that does not need anymore fuel.
I saw these triggers at the gun show yesterday, $250 and then you’ll be able to waste thousands of $$$$ worth of ammo–Stupid
As a Drill Sergeant of latter 80s, I trained Basic Trainees with the M16A1 (With Safe/3Rd Burst/Auto) and while was required to familiarize the troops with Auto Fire (Both Day & Night Fire); that came only ‘after’ they had mastered Basic Rifle Marksmanship with Qualification. Even with that requirement fulfilled, I drilled into every one precisely what others have already said. Best practice is to forget you even have Full Auto as even an option; until position is being overrun by a suicide attack and you actually want to die atop a pile of brass. While will admit my (personal) favorite rifle is civilian version AR15A1, in all respects duplicate one I trained others to use, lacking only one mode I actually do miss. That 3 round burst! Used with fire discipline it can be a terrible thing for opfor to face whether from ambush or response to one. Between that Drill status & return to my Regimental Affiliate prior our deployment Desert Storm, I worked with Range Comman briefly. During that time I garnered as much knowledge as able. the thing I heard repeatedly was that Full Auto was more detrimental to combat riflemen than any other M16 Advantage.
Morgan I agree!
I WANT full auto because “shall not infringed” means exactly that… but… I doubt I’d ever use it!
I’ve only shot a full-auto SAW, that was fun…
So you’re saying you actually like the 3 round burst? I heard that many didn’t like it, felt they could make their own “burst” with trigger control + full auto. I’ve never shot a 3 round burst so just wondering.
But yeah I think we all agree on full auto not being very useful.
Thank you for your comments!
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