This U.K. Situation Shows The DANGERS Of Gun Registration

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Anti-gunners love the idea of gun registration. They love the idea of being able to track where every gun is at any given time, and they love the false sense of security and safety that that pretense of control gives them.

Those people are living in a fantasy world. The guns that they need to be worried about are the guns that will never be registered because criminals have them and obtained them illegally.

But anti-gunners persist with pushing gun registration. And, now, we have evidence of one of the biggest dangers of gun registration from a place that has actually implemented that foolish policy. Holly Clemens and Chris Vallance write,

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Thousands of names and addresses belonging to UK customers of a leading website for buying and selling shotguns and rifles have been published to the dark web following a “security breach”.

Guntrader.uk told the BBC it learned of the breach on Monday and had notified the Information Commissioner’s Office.

Police, including the National Crime Agency, are investigating.

One affected gun owner said he was afraid the breach could lead to his family being targeted by criminals.

Gun ownership is tightly controlled in the UK, making guns difficult to acquire, and potentially valuable on the black market.

The individual, who did not wish to be named, told the BBC the breach “seriously compromises my security arrangements for my firearms and puts me in a situation where me and my family could be targeted and in danger”.

Guntrader.uk said around 100,000 customer records were stolen but “no information relating to gun ownership or the location of firearms was taken”.

Nevertheless, the stolen data will include many people who do own firearms, and shooting organisations are urging caution.

The British Association for Shooting and Conservation (BASC) is urging its members “to be vigilant around home security” following the breach.

In a statement published on its website, it said personal data had been listed on “on a hackers’ website”.

So, the effect of anti-gunners trying to “keep people safe” is to not only not keep anyone safe, since criminals don’t register their firearms, but the effect has been to make gun owners less safe. To make it even worse, the effect of this policy is to make it easier for criminals to get their hands on guns by, effectively, telling them where guns to steal are currently located: the houses of the few legal gun owners in the U.K..

Great job, U.K. anti-gunners. You’ve taken a situation and made it worse by your incompetence and foolish policies.

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17 COMMENTS

  1. As I recall, gun registration records here in the USA have to be available without much problem. A fake college student could seek the info ” for a research project” and then sell the info. and, yes, the name and address of a gun owner and the make and serial number of each gun would be valuable info for burglars and the like. And government is not careful about who gets that info.

    • WW2 Germany’s gun restriction weren’t as bad for citizens loyal to the German rule as most think. As I understand it, the real restrictions were on Jews, Gypsies, and Slavic non-citizens. Yet the registrations were not as complete as intended.

      However, the use, or misuse, of registration laws can be significant. And as a Conservative Constitutionalist, I don’t believe there should be any restrictions on WEAPONS as long as a citizen isn’t a criminal or adjudicated as mentally ill.

      But the penalties for misuse of a weapon should be severe. By that I mean the penalty for premeditated murder, including drive by shootings, should be the death penalty.

      • Gun registration wasn’t a problem so long as you stayed or Heir Adolf’s good side. Get on the bad side of the Dictator of the day and its suddenly about perspective. Our government can pass whatever laws it wants regarding guns. Not one “0” criminals will ever register a gun. The government will only end up prosecuting what were formally law abiding citizens. Me , personally I will not comply with any registration of my guns or pay any tax on any magazines or scary accessories I’ve previously purchased and already paid taxes on. At the end of the day it that makes me a criminal. 1 I no longer care cause my government has officially been taken over by the socialists 2 I’ll still sleep soundly at night cause I still have my guns. 3 if a jack boot thug comes for me and the guns, Well the tree of freedom occasionally needs to be refreshed with the blood of patriots!

  2. As was mentioned in the article the elephant (gorilla?) in the room for the gun registration crowd is that only Law Abiding Citizens abide by the rules, criminals don’t. And the obvious caveat is that those Law Abiding Citizens are NOT the problem. When confronted with that ‘minor’ detail, the advocates of registration will – at best – resort to their ‘its for the children’ meme or their other favorite line ‘we have to DO something’ – how about actually punishing the criminals who misuse guns and leave the Law Abiding Citizens alone.

    • The hidden elephant in the room is liberals becoming aghast when law abiding folk suggest that the penalties for premeditated murder, shooting into crowds, and drive my murders should include the death penalties.

      Then when we agree to long prison sentences, liberal judges give only 2 to 5 years for serious gun crimes. Sometimes I think when I get frustrated about crimes, that we should say as Shakespeare had his actors say, “Kill all the lawyers”. I know, not very Christian or republican (small r).

  3. I agree with everything I read . Please keep in mind the government of the State or federal government can not destroy 100 percent of it. THE BLACK MARKET WILL ALWAYS BE THERE. Please keep in mind the more money you have in the black market you can buy anything! Keep in mind the federal government will never destroy the black market because they used the market themselves even they denied it. ( this is just my opinion). I put this way Satin can not collect my soul on this opinion!

    • Better yet you can not sell your soul to NATAS because it doesn’t belong 2 u. It belongs to GOD.

  4. Our forefathers knew that the government did not need to know if anyone owned a gun …

  5. A suitable retaliation would be to publicly reveal the addresses of all those jerkfaced active agitators who want NO guns for ANYONE (but those who can aford to hire private security, of course!), for those who prey upon defenseless people! Nothing a sadistic thug loves better than CONFIRMING victims who have no means to resist! If you live next to one, you could put a sign in YOUR yard pointing to THEIRS!

    • Brian – I’m glad to see that someome ( other than myself ) Caught that very disturbing remark ! I was like W H A T ? ? ? I didn’t want to mention it , until I saw you say something about it ! NICE JOB !!!

  6. From what I’ve read, several states already have gun registration, Hawaii, commiefornia, N.J., New York, Michigan, Massachusetts., Illinois.
    These gun banning politicians all day the same thing “oh, gun registration will stop crime and save the children”, or. ” if we could just pass more gun control , all crime will stop”.
    Say, didn’t the politicians say that with the Brady Bill back in 1994?
    The politicians wanted background checks, saying this will stop crime, did it? Of course not. Law abiding citizens are “red flagged” for no reason at all and can’t purchase guns. I’ve talked to gun store employees who said even police have been denied. And now you’ve got politicians who want harder background checks, where they interviewed ex girlfriend, ex wife, ex employer, the neighbor who blasts their stereo all night etc. What will this prove? How will this stop crime?
    Maybe if these demoncrap mayor’s stopped listening to a bunch of loud mouth trouble makers, rioters, looters, protesters, and stopped trying to defund-abolish the police and let the police arrest these criminals and put them in jail for long periods of time, then the crime rate will go down. It’s not the law abiding citizens commiting crime.
    But sleepy Joe says “it’s the white supremacists terrorists commiting all the crime”. What nonsense!
    Also, the Border Patrol has no more room for all of the illegals coming up from Central America and they are putting them on busses and planes and sending them to major cities in America. Then the crime rate goes up. And a lot of the illegals have CV, but the news media says nothing about this, because they know Americans would demand the illegals be sent back. Finish the border wall now!
    Most of these gun banning groups are run and funded by Micheal Bloomberg, George Soros , the Chinese government, the U.N
    , Russia and now Mexico.
    The Brady group is helping Mexico sue various gun manufacturers in the USA. This says a lot when you have a American group helping Mexico to restrict firearms in America. The Brady group is a traitor to America.
    Support and protect your right to keep and own all types of firearms and accessories. Don’t let the power crazed politicians ban our guns.
    Background checks equal gun registration equals gun confiscation equals gun control concentration camps!

  7. In WW2, when the Nazi thugs invaded the Netherlands, they just went to police stations and obtained gun-owner lists/addresses! Then, the Netherlands had gun registration, and the dutiful all registered their guns. When invaded, the Nazis just went to those addresses, DEMANDED the guns, and summarily SHOT those who refused to relinquish them! Afterward, the residents nearly starved under the Nazi thefts of foods to feed their invading troops! NO way to resist! Democrats EMULATING their idols, the NAZIS! But WE aren’t in the Netherlands!

  8. Anger under control is a precious commodity.” When you do battle, even if you are winning, if you continue for a long time it will dull your forces and blunt your edge; if you besiege a citadel, your strength 💪 will be exhausted. If you keep your armies out in the field for a long time, your supplies will be insufficient.” Arms are tools of ill omen-to employ them for an extended period of time ⌚ will bring about calamity. As it is said, “Those who like to fight and so exhaust their military inevitably perish.”When your forces are dulled, your edge is blunted, your strength 💪 is exhausted, and your supplies are gone, then others will take advantage of your debility and rise up. Then even if you have wise advisers you cannot make things turn out well in the end. Therefore, I have heard of military operations that were clumsy but swift, but I have never seen one that was skillful and lasted a long time. It is never beneficial to a nation to have a military operation continue for a long time. As it is said, be swift as the thunder that peals before you have a chance to cover your ears, fast as the lightning that flashes before you can blink your eyes. Therefore, those who aren’t thoroughly aware of the disadvantages in the use of arms cannot be thoroughly aware of the advantages in the use of arms. Those who use the military skillfully do not raise troops twice and do not provide food three times. In other words, you draft people into service once and then immediately seize victory-you do not go back to your country a second time ⌚ to raise more troops. At first you provide food, after that you feed off the enemy. From Master Sun Tzu The Art of War. America, is running out of time…

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