Are you as tired as I am of hearing ridiculous proposals from politicians and anti-gun activists? I have to tell you that I am really sick of it, and one of the main reasons that it just drives me nuts is the lack of any logical thought or analysis that go in to their rhetoric.
Let’s take, for example, arguments to limit “high capacity” magazines. As far as I can tell, the anti-gunner rhetoric assumes that banning these magazines will somehow either magically keep active shooters from having as many bullets or that having smaller magazines will allow people to get away because the shooter will have to reload more often which, in their mind, would take an incredibly long time.
But history isn’t on their side on this one. And we’re talking recent history. In fact, the shooter at the high school in Parkland, Florida used 10 round magazines with his AR-15. True, he dropped that firearm part of the way through his shooting spree, but he still had 150 rounds for that weapon [hat tip to here for that info]. This means that he could have killed many more people with that firearm (apparently, he dropped it because it jammed, which only testifies to his lack of training).
The thing is, if this guy had any firearms training at all, that shooting would have been a lot worse, and the size of the magazines that he was using wouldn’t have made any difference.
If your anti-gunner friends don’t understand why the size of the magazine wouldn’t have made a difference, pull out your AR-15 or even your CCW pistol and show them how quickly you can reload. Really, if you have any training at all, a quick magazine change is no big deal and takes almost no time at all.
And, that, my friends, is why banning “high capacity” magazine clips wouldn’t have made any difference at all in the Parkland shooting and won’t make a difference in future incidents either.
When my concealed carry main gun was an AMT Hardballer .45 ACP (8 rounds per magazine) I simply carried ten magazines, just in case. I would rather have eighty spare rounds I do not need rather than need one round I do not have when defending my family. That has always been my policy.
No it will not, when are stupid idiots going to learn that criminals and morons dont care what the law is they will kill steal rob to get what they want. No gun control of any kind.
All they want is total control of the people and using kids to get it
Banning the hi Caps would never have any affect since there are many millions of them out there. It would be like trying to ban pebbles. They are everywhere. And of course, criminals don’t give a hoot about bans or laws. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
The whole idea of any type of gun control,is ridiculous. If it wasn’t for the Minutemen and Militias being armed,our Independence would never had existed. Today,if our Nation were to come under attack,the Forts and Military Bases,would be wiped out because our own Military,is not armed to the ready. By the time they got an executive order to arm…it would already be too late. The ensured safety lies in the arms of Patriots(Minutemen) and the Militias. We must always,stand at the ready,to protect our nation,our families and ourselves. The Military simply would not be mobilized enough,to make a difference. Multitudes of men and women have died,to ensure our country’s freedom.
Banning high capacity mags will help nothing. On the other hand, it would help to ban high the capacity tongues of certain liberal politicians. That would make America Great Again!
They are taking our Second Amendment rights away one bolt a time they have to be stopped the second amendment was made to protect ourselves from the very people trying to end it. They can’t completely control us until they have disarmed us Americans will not let this happen
We need to BAN “liberals and commiecrats” and take THEIR guns away from them. After all, MOST (if not all) of these “shootings” were committed by a DEMOCRAT or a child OF a DEMOCRAT. (see the “pattern”???)
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
ALAS ! the people who don’t realize this, are not listening. wish I new how to get it through their thick skulls !
I had a friend stand 25 feet from me. He was able to take 2½ steps toward me during a 10 round or a 30 round magazine change. If I practiced magazine changes more often, I could probably reduce that time. Click, drop, insert, click. Yep, it is that quick. Check it on YouTube.
Just like most of the ignorant anti-gun rhetoric, reducing magazine size is idiotic, but it makes them feel good to enslave themselves and us.
well for one thing i see most politains do not know what they are talking about guns. first thing guns are not the problem when you have a broken justice system like we have now which is only for the crimmnals you have no justice for the gun owners who respect the law and the more you ban the black market will have more guns then they have now first the fed. goverment should not be invloed in the first place see ive seen when the fed. goverment gets inolled this=gs get worse due to half the time you people do not know what really is going on in the real world and you fix the justice system for the respected gun owners and prosacute the crimmnals you will have less probles background checks is totally stupid and be part of the solution not the problem.
I could be wrong, but it strikes me that all the pushing and screaming about Banning Large Capacity Magizines and actually Thinking involves mutually exclusive actions/activities.
If the guy had only a ten round magazine for his AR-15, then he had the minimum magazine here is. So, what more banning can be done? I have seen pistols with a 15 round magazine. We best ban those immediately. In a crowded school interior, one does not need a rifle. Any handgun will work as well and it can be concealed a lot easier. Why not use two handguns and up the firepower?
This whole argument by liberals and distraught parents is absurd. I understand the absolute strongest reaction by parents. But there were ample warnings given to more than one branch of law enforcement involved and they did nothing. Why are we not putting blame there? School officials knew the guy was a threat. Why did they not talk to the shooter’s family? While no blame was put on a disturbance of the shooter’s mind due to bullying, it should have. I see utter failure by school and law enforcement as the cause of this incident, not the weapon.
Banning anything will NOT HELP! Criminals have a way to firearms!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!
C’mon, you’re supposed to know better. “High capacity magazine clips”? Are you a secret Democrat gun banner, or what? LEARN CORRECT NOMENCLATURE OR GET ANOTHER JOB!
Magizine’s have a spring,clip’s donot.
I kinda suspect that is a deliberate “mistake” on his part since there have been calls for exactly that: “banning “high capacity” magazine clips”.
The sad part of the Florida school shooting was that law enforcement(sheriff, fbi, and the school) did not want any intervention because then the school would have lost money. I plan not to help the fbi, doj, or any of this type group until the whole bunch is reorganized and cleaned up-top to bottom. I no longer trust what any of what this bunch says or does.
It won’t help at all, anyone that uses a gun will practice changing clips. So my 7 round clip just means I carry more clips and pray I don’t need them. Banning them would be pointless, it would be like banning war.
This continuous sharp focus on the second amendment is not associated to public safety. Quite the reverse. The constant bloviating and staging of shootings is to bring about citizens disarmament. no other reason. Liberals and the UN are armed to the teeth so any anti-gun any anti spare parts or high capacity magazine rhetoric should be loudly shouted down and quickly.
ever practice dropping mags
Back when I was shooting High Power Rifle competition, using stripper clip fed bolt action rifles with 5 round internal magazines, I had no trouble at all shooting 10 shots, rapid fire. Could have fired more, but 10 shots was the course of fire. BY the way, my bolt action rifles were right handed like almost all bolt action rifles were, though being left eye dominant, I fired left handed, the rifle never leaving my shoulder during firing/reloading, not at all difficult an accomplishment
Being a lefty,(and left eye dominant) born in the late sixties, I actually prefer a right handed bolt. I never new a left handed option was available, and in the mid seventies when I was taught to shoot, they might not have existed. I was/am able to maintain my sight picture ( with a rest), and operate the bolt with my right hand. I have a left handed daughter, (12 yoa., safe, well trained, disciplined [Eddie eagle and daddy], and proficient shooter). We were talking about how right handed shotguns, are actually better for lefties. We love to shoot trap, skeet, and sporting clays, and giggle at the right handed folk, with their “right handed” shotguns, as they fumble to load their shells in their pumps/auto loaders. PS – found a great sale at Big R last week. 30 round Magpul Gen 3 5.56/.223 mags for $10.99 each, no limit. As an Illinois resident, there were bills sailing thru out congress attempting to ban “hi-cap mags”. I asked the gun counter guy if they were trying to dump existing inventory. He said the sale was scheduled far before the ban talk, and that they could have cleaned up if they had raised the price. I laughed with him, as I gabbed every mag on the rack. One can never have to many mags!
During the World Wars the Limeys were taught to fire their Enfield’s so rapidly a company firing would seem to be a couple of machine guns firing.
No Sr this ban would not make any difference .
Should anyone be interested, the rifles referenced were the Model 70 Winchester Standard Target Rifle,as I recall.
If “hi-cap” mags are responsible for more deaths, are extra large spoons responsible for more obesity/death? Are cars that can drive faster than the maximum speed limit responsible for motor vehicle fatalities? Are bigger cars/trucks responsible for the same? Are larger bottles of booze responsible for DUI’s/alcohol related fatalities? Same for larger opioid prescription amounts? Are larger home pools responsible for more drownings? Are taller buildings responsible for more fire related fatalities/severe injury fatalities? How about larger houses, or homes in rural, remote areas? ARE BIG CITIES/LARGE POPULOUS URBAN CITIES RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE HUMAN FATALITIES??? Per the last sentence, big city, liberal/progressive bastions are statistically far more dangerous than medium to small towns. Wonder why liberal progressives don’t want to ban them????
The news is not the news of the past. Why is the school systems teaching stupid answers instead of facts?
A sad compentary on the mis-information that is being used??
As my grandfather said “It Does not take any brains to be stupid”
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