One of the things Trump promised to do to protect the 2nd Amendment was to promote a “National Right To Carry”.
The exact wording he uses makes me THINK that he’s talking about National reciprocity for state concealed carry permits.
That would be good.
The other option? A National concealed carry permit?
That would be bad, bad, bad.
I recently came across the website of Alan Korwin who runs Bloomfield Press, the largest producer and distributor of gun-law books in the country.
He puts into words my feelings on a National Carry permit better than I could, so I asked to re-publish his article here and he graciously accepted. Please read it all the way through and understand what he’s saying (also, the very last line BLEW my mind! Check out what he calls “Diplomatic Carry”, that is what we should be working for as free people!)
Stop The National Carry Permit
“Gun Guys” Are Pushing In Wrong Direction
Misguided effort to restore rights can destroy rights
Will NRA, GOA and others get it right?
The lamestream media told you:
“Do you have a firearms carry permit Mr. Trump?”
“Yes.”
“Are you for law and order?”
“Yes. Law and order is very important.”
The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:
The last thing you ever want is to have the federal government issuing national — or any — firearm carry permits.
The feds do not have this power. The feds should never have this power.
Your right to have a firearm anywhere in America should never depend on getting “papers” from any government, much less the federal powers in Washington, D.C.
If you have a gun — constitutionally protected private property — and you aren’t doing anything inherently wrong, that should never be a crime. There is no victim. No one is harmed. No actual crime is committed. The idea that you need a wallet card to be somewhere you have a legal right to be is preposterous.
Too many gun owners, including some leaders of the gun-rights movement, sincere but totally misinformed and misdirected, are salivating for our permit-carrying president elect to issue some sort of national carry plan. It cannot, must not, better not be a national permit in any way shape or form.
The best solution
The best plan to resolve the travesty of national gun-rights denial Americans have suffered under for generations — worse than racism — is to repeal the restrictions that deny your rights. You don’t need no stinkin’ permits to be black and we don’t need no stinkin’ permits to be peacefully in possession of property.
on the right to bear arms.
The next logical step would be to arrest and charge officials who under color of law deny a peaceful person’s civil right to possess arms. Denial of rights is a federal felony under 18 USC §241 et seq. You can’t just deny a person’s constitutional, civil and human rights because you don’t like those rights. That’s got a name. It’s gunism, like racism. This law 18-241 and the ones that follow it were written to prevent haters from denying blacks their rights. Everyone has fundamental rights that need the same protection.
If a national carry solution is proposed that does not include punishment for violators (officials who stop you solely for possession, or harass you, remove or attempt to remove your firearm for any invalid reason, incarcerate you, post signs that falsely indicate you cannot “drink at this water fountain,” or otherwise act against your legal right to keep and bear arms), experience shows they will not obey the law. We see this all the time. The law only matters if it has teeth.
We call this comitatus-style law, like the posse comitatus law. Instead of enacting, “A person may legally bear arms across state lines,” which officials can violate without repercussion, the law must say, “Anyone who interferes with a person legally bearing arms, shall go to prison and pay a fine.”
who illegally deny your right to arms.
Recognition
One small step in the right direction is a recognition bill. This would require states to recognize the permits already issued by the states. True, it would further entrench the existing sidearm permit system, but we have to face the fact that it is already in place, and it’s likely a good first step. It advances the freedom of millions of Americans, puts more honest armed citizens out in public, and we know this deters and prevents crime. It also softens the antis arguments.
Despite the terrified but false screams from the agitated and hoplophobic left, having permitted gun owners all over the landscape does not lead to Dodge City and blood at stop lights. They cry about that every time a permit law advances, but it is 100% false every time — another great example of false news — with no corrections ever issued.
Reciprocity
A far less desirable choice, it requires states to agree to grant you privileges, which can be removed, typically adds requirements, and involves bickering between unelected bureaucrats on whether you and your state are qualified to have rights in their states. Who do these people think they are?
News is circulating about four bills already in Congress to establish reciprocity, or something. They are: H.R. 923, H.R. 986, H.R. 402, and one Senate bill, S. 498. You can always look up bills by entering their numbers in Thomas.gov: https://www.congress.gov/. Four numbers, but only two basic sets of text. Both are flawed.
HR923 “allows” people with permits to carry in other states under their ever-changing permit conditions, which you would have to know, somehow. There is no penalty if officials in the other states fail to comply, which we see happen all the time. Almost everyone in America is excluded — 97% of us haven’t signed up for “papers” even though more than half of us bear arms.
HR986 explicitly prohibits arresting a person who is carrying under conditions similar to HR923, an improvement, but the same problems exist. It also creates official make-believe gun-free zones by federal law, a very bad precedent. In an effort to provide recourse, a person has an affirmative defense, so after they arrest you anyway, you can provide proof you’re legal, and then even sue. Thanks.
There is still no real penalty for their criminal denial of your rights. It is time for a law-and-order change to that whole upside-down system. The other two bills are similar to these.
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Constitutional Carry
State after state has enacted this — freedom to carry with no government interference whatsoever. http://www.gunlaws.com/ConstitutionalCarryIndex.htm
You can carry a gun pretty much like you can carry a book. It’s called rights.
And everyone knows books are dangerous.
Just look at deaths caused by the Quoran, or the Commie Manifesto.
People don’t shoot each other just because they’re armed.
That’s paranoid fear perpetually projected by unstable left-wing reporters and citizens.
Anti-rights wackos scream about Freedom to Carry of course —
exactly as they do about permit laws — and they’re the exact same wrong.
No one is harmed, there are no victims, crime drops, people are safer.
Instructors and ranges make a lot more money too —
because the market increases tremendously.
You go from a measly few percent willing to sign up for a permit, to half the public that owns guns. Get the government out of the way (permits, paperwork, police, pay up, stand in line, register yourself)… and the freed-up market explodes. (At first though, trainers fear losing their government rice bowl.)
Constitutional Carry is the real deal, remove restrictions, restore rights, advance freedom. Society always benefits when liberty is restored. Establish a Culture of Marksmanship.
Representative Richard Hudson (R-NC) reportedly is cooking up some good new bill, but it’s not out for review yet. We shall see. Will it include punishment for rogue officials?
And a good next step: Diplomatic Carry:
http://www.gunlaws.com/DiplomaticCarry.htm
Read that and salivate.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Freelance writer Alan Korwin is a founder and past president of the Arizona Book Publishing Association. With his wife Cheryl he operates Bloomfield Press, the largest producer and distributor of gun-law books in the country. Find more from Alan at GunLaws.com.
all good stuff to know
Yes, it IS good to know, but I find NO direct reference to Our Second Amendment, which makes NO reference to permits. A permit is an INFRINGEMENT. One needs no permit to carry a pocket watch. One should need no permit to carry a firearm.
Technically, according to Our Second Amendment, any requirement for a permit is ILLEGAL!!!!!
That’s absolutely correct, Twisted. Some of us like you and me are starting to ‘get it’, but it is an uphill battle not because we don’t have the power to repeal ALL illegal gun laws and infringements, but because our minds are still infected with the NLP brainwashing virus handed down by the power elite all these years. The main tipping point being the 1968 Gun Control Act (making gun restrictions/possession a permanent punishment for a criminal conviction, even after you have paid your penalty and once again became integrated back in a free society as a law abiding citizen, then the Brady Bill Nics/background checks which effectively created an illegal national registration of gun owners, then the universal National I.D. card (real I.D. card Act of 2005 which effectively registers your private location for the convenience of State surveillance and tracking measures.
If you’re an advanced student of the Gun Control Wars, you already know that not only do any kind of gun control laws Not work and will never prevent crime, useless gun laws actually encourage it and cause more crime and danger to those individuals needing guns to protect and defend themselves as necessary, not to mention costing taxpayers huge amounts of resources/money that can better be used to solve the social issues of criminal behavior.
So, then, the sometimes epiphany revelations that people get once they manage to do the rudimentary math, is that the sum of the whole is ALL WRONG. So then…What is the REAL answer as to why they need all these useless gun control laws?
It’s the dirty ‘D’ word. And why, then, do they need mass confiscations and Disarmament of the populate and absolute control of all private gun activity?
Most of us who still live in the real world don’t need a diagram. The basic term is Totalitarianism.
So the only conclusion from this problem is that eventually they will get control over all of us as the ideology of absolute power elite Authoritative control over the masses by firearms confiscations BY LAW, or…
We will finally come to our senses and We, the People’ reverse ALL Federal and anti-Constitutional State gun control laws, ALL OF THEM, no exceptions, And start over by focusing our energy more on repairing our broken criminal justice system and mental health systems.
I am immensely grateful for Mr. Korwin’s great American Patriot efforts and liberty value production.
But even good intentioned Freedom Advocates like him often miss the point.
Mr. Korwin indicates in his website that he is seriously concerned about the government’s illegal regulatory intrusion into private property ownership and transactions. And insists that it’s none of the goverment’s business to be attempting to licence/permit the use/possession of any private property like guns, etc. I fervently agree. It’s NONE of the government’s business to even Know what we have in our personal ownership.
Yet, Mr. Korwin then submits a different plan for ‘background’ checks at dealers in the form list of prohibited buyers for dealers, WHICH STILL AMOUNTS TO TACIT REGISTRATION which still supports 4473 sales records (for nothing else but eventual confiscation laws).
So what Mr. Korwin and so many others miss is that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE PROPERTY–IF YOU DON’T HAVE PRIVACY!?
The 4th/A supports and protects the 2nd/A and conversely. And they both are the foundation for all other fragile liberties in America.
Unfortunately, too many of us are not yet understanding the concepts of absolute content, uncompromised, immutable principles, and simple right and wrong in honest common sense analysis.
So we’re all willing to ‘Compromise’ and make a deal for a few bones thrown our way when all the Totalitarians are scheming about is a future Fascist Feast…on YOUR enslaved back!
Without going into the reasons at the moment, If you still trust those amazing visionary Founders and their gift of Liberty, suffice to say that some things in life cannot be compromised and are simply NON- Negotiable.
Like the 2nd/A when it DID NOT say “…shall not be infringed, Except For Domestic Violence issues, Mental health issues requiring meds (still not a crime unless you lie about it on your form 4473) orIf you ever were a convicted criminal, Pot smoker, carrying in illegal gun free zones, carrying unless you have a State permit, Or are NOT in possession of your National NAZI papaers/I.D. card/drivers license with facial recognition tech so we can scan your face and see if your expression indicates you are about to commit a crime (thinking i’m exaggerating a bit, do you???) so they can immediately disarm you at traffic stop level. or if you merely verbally advise your nit wit neighbor that next time their shitass dog shits in your driveway, you’ll shovel it on their front steps, and in retaliation, under the NY and other pending state Safe Act legislation, she gets to call the PoPO have your house searched without a warrant, your weapons seized because she fears for her life now, because she knows you have guns because she saw you going hunting one time (actual case)”
INSTEAD, The Second Amendment states in no uncertain terms that the “…right to keep and bear arms shall Not Be Infringed.” PERIOD!
The sooner we all get that and ACT upon it politically, the sooner we can ‘fix’ it so that no Tyrannical government or radical social power elite can ever atdtemt or have the possibility to disarm a Free American populate again.
It’s the only way folks. Otherwise they’ll never stop trying to take your guns, and then everything else you have.
I see the point.
Being Arrested as a form of Harrassment is no joke.
It is a method of surpression using fear due to the Money involved just to PROVE you are Innocent. This possession suppression law has happened in a Nebraska case it went to the Nebraska Supreme Court. They said that a driver without a Nebraska concealed carry permit, can not have access to their weapon in their vehicle even when it is stopped.
Case to go with my comments.
http://www.guns.com/2016/12/17/nebraska-supreme-court-clarifies-concealed-carry-in-cars/
I see the point.
Being Arrested as a form of Harrassment is no joke.
It is a method of surpression using fear due to the Money involved just to PROVE you are Innocent. This possession suppression law has happened in a Nebraska case it went to the Nebraska Supreme Court. They said that a driver without a Nebraska concealed carry permit, can not have access to their weapon in their vehicle even when it is stopped!
http://www.guns.com/2016/12/17/nebraska-supreme-court-clarifies-concealed-carry-in-cars/
Jonathan E. Wilhelm
They already have a national permit, it’s the Second Amendment. No unnecessary paperwork or fees involved.
My previous comment was a bit more wordy. Yours is far more concise, and says what I meant to say.
OK good article there a lot work that need to be done
EVERY politician and Bureaucrat needs to get it thru that concrete block on top of their shoulders that they do NOT have the authority to govern the individual citizens of this Nation WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT!!! That statement is based on the FACT that we each have UN-A-LIEN-ABLE rights – rights that cannot be separated from us by some decree of debt – a lien – by any other human being, individually or collectively (as in government!). We do not live under the Rule of LAW! We live under the Rule of JUSTICE – where the Law is simply the Force by which Justice applies the law EQUALLY to all human beings. Because all human beings are EQUALLY HUMAN to ALL other human beings – no more no less! There are no super humans and no sub humans!
Woody Wilson lead the movement to declare the principles of the Declaration of Independence obsolete because humans are “progressing”. The underlying ideology of THAT fallacy is the whole notion of evolution – STILL an UNPROVEN THEORY. Man has not improved in the arena of “good and evil” one phuquing bit in the last 10000 years of civilized history! He still lies to get his own narcissistic way – over his fellow human being! He still covets power. He still attempts to STEAL his way to Wealth – don’t believe me? Ask any given “conservative who is the scumbag criminal; likely he will tell you Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. Ask any given liberal the same; likely Donald Trump or Ben Schapiro. With all that apparent evidence – even of those who think of themselves our natural superiors – how can you not recognize this self-evident Truth.
The principles of the Declaration of Independence are every bit valid today as they were 240 years ago! I don’t need governments permission to protect my life and my property. It needs MY permission to govern me!
i dont think a loberal will say ben schapiro because he is,a liberal that fought trump all thru the election
Trump said that a Concealed Carry Permit should be just like a Driver’s License! Good in all 50 states!
Trump is a bonafide advocate of Our Second Amendment, but in this area I think he is misguided. A permit violates Our Second Amendment. Therefore, any law requiring a permit is illegal and must be repealed.
That should cover silencers or supressors if you prefer. Should not have to ask for permission to own one or file for a $200.00 tax stamp. Takes months and still not sure if your request will be granted. I know there is a bill out for just the thing but we should not have to ask the feds for anything! Leave it up to the individual. Think about it, you have to file for a ccw have a background check for that and then pay a ton of money for everything that goes with it. If you have a clean record and are allowed to get a ccw then you should be able to have a supressor too.
“…keep and BEAR arms…”
Enough said.
NO National Carry Permit. Don’t let the Feds be the issuing authority or establish another database.
CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY NOW !
Let the Commie/Libtard/Kehnt/BLAK grabbers in most of New England, NY, NJ, Kalifornication and the BLAK ghetto cities flop around and cry like the little beetchez they are.
Trump was not proposing a Federal Government issued Carry permit as this article wants you to believe.
Trump suggests that like a drivers license, a Conceal Carry permit issued to you in your home state, should be recognized as legal in every state, just as your drivers license is.
President Elect Trump never said anything about a National Carry Permit.What he said was that he wanted to make our State Concealed Carry License or Permit valid in all 50 states just like our State Drivers License.That sure would make travel much easier and safer.We would have to abide by the laws of the state we were in but no more avoiding certain states because they do not recognize our License. or Permit.I think this is a great idea.It is what is missing from our License.I also think Constitutional Carry is a bad idea.There must be some control of who is allowed to carry a concealed fire arm.I know people say the 2nd amendment is their carry permit and I wish we could trust everyone to carry,but there are a lot of people who could not qualify for a Carry Permit and for good reason.They are either felons or criminals and cannot be trusted with a concealed weapon.Some say that would be a restriction of their rights,but I don’t see it that way.It is just common sense.
There is a problem no matter how it is looked at. I am a retired chief LEO and I have to qualify each year in order to carry a specific firearm in every state and D.C. It is the firearm I qualify with and no other can be carried. If I have a problem with that firearm then I need to requalify with a different gun. Each time I qualify it can cost anywhere from $25.00 to $100.00.
What is a problem is that you need to know the particulars of each states CC regs. For instance if I’m in new Jersey I cannot carry hollow point ammo. ( I know of LEO arrested for having hollow point ammo) If I go through NY I can only carry a limited number of rounds in my chosen firearm. The list goes on. This is surely better than not being able to carry but you are still at the whims of different state regs so I guess knowing each is the alternative (as long as the law makers don’t change them year to year ).
Why doesn’t anyone see that Our Second Amendment makes all of these restrictions ILLEGAL, and the laws requiring them are likewise ILLEGAL?
A must. You have to have a stinger in the laws so the rogue LEOs will be given plenty of incentive to LEAVE US ALONG.
Right now, too many cowboys who want to shoot someone, are out there looking for a victim.
Thanks Caleb for some good information and good conservative logic. Keep up the good work
The benevolent Government giveth and it taketh away
“Any Government big enough to give you everything, is also strong enough to take it all away” Thomas Jefferson.
The SECOND AMENDMENT TRUMPS ALL LAWS of Congress, ANY president or ANY Supreme Court! Even the Supreme Court has declared such in previous rulings including Reid v Covert 358 U.S. 1: “an international accord that is inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution is VOID under domestic U.S. law, THE SAME AS ANY OTHER FEDERAL LAW IN CONFLICT WITH THE CONSTITUTION.” That 6-2 decision was affirmed with the statement from SCOTUS: “The United States is ENTIRELY a creature of the Constitution. Its POWER AND AUTHORITY HAVE NO OTHER SOURCE. It can ONLY ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL THE LIMITATIONS IMPOSED BY THE CONSTITUTION…..The rights and liberties which citizens of our country enjoy are not protected by customs and traditions alone, THEY HAVE BEEN JEALOUSLY PRESERVED FROM THE ENCROACHMENTS OF GOVERNMENT BY EXPRESS PROVISIONS OF OUR WRITTEN CONSTITUTION.”—-SO SAYS the U.S. Supreme Court, and Chief Justice Earl Warren, 1957.
Then my question persists! WHY have not ALL gun laws violating Our Second Amendment been repealed? Licensing is illegal. Restrictions are illegal. WHY do such laws still exist?
Because we are all–or at least half the population is– too brainwashed to force a change to enforce violations and punishments-like Korwin says we should do. We are all too ‘mind-controlled’ to understand that some things like our fundamental life’s liberties simply cannot be ‘compromised’ for bullshit notions like public safety or police state crime prevention.
Until ‘We, The American Patriot ‘people’ (it’s not all of us anymore) do a huge mental shift on this, They’ll continue to get away with it. They would have ‘solved’ this ‘national carry’ issue by next month had Hillary won. There wouldn’t be ANY more carry permits unless you were a police state member.
The only permission I need to carry a gun is the Second Amendment. Read it Does it say what type of gun we can own or carry? does it say who may own a gun? Again all of these laws added by local, state, and the federal governments are their attempts to control us. If changing the Bill of Rights and the Constitution requires a Constitutional Convention, why is it that all of these government entities can alter the Second Amendment on a whim?
I agree with Trump’s policy a National Carrie permit will over ride laws of some states like California where you can’t get a carrie permit.
President Trump will soon swear His oath to uphold the constitution, all the amendments and regulations piled on top of OUR 2nd amendment are out the window, state and national, it SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! CASE CLOSED, DO YOUR OATH PRESIDENT TRUMP, they release hundreds of thousands of criminals and take away an old persons ability to protect there selves. Abolish the SSA.
Trump has stated explicitly on several occasions that he’s talking about universal reciprocity among the 50 states. He wants all states to recognize all other states’ permits. Just like they do drivers’ licences… which is a State issue. Any State can refuse to recognize any other State’s license at any time… if it wants to, which would be stupid.
NOT a “national permit”.
So this is a non-issue.
I hope Mr. Trump will also restore the rights of those who have served their time for any mistakes they may have made and restore their rights as well, this includes the right to vote as well as carry a weapon of any type. If you have served your time and continue to walk the lawful path then there is no reason to continue to punish someone for the rest of their life.
This also includes rights for those who the government has decided that they are not fit to own weapons without a due process before a jury of their peers.
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