It is a sad day in American politics.
That’s because retired General Stanley McChrystal has endorsed gun control after the Orlando jihadist shooting.
And just a short time ago, retired Gen. David Petraeus joined Mark Kelly, husband of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, to promote gun control.
The truth is that both these men, regardless of what they accomplished in their previous service, are now betraying the Constitution they swore to defend.
ARMY Officers Swear an Oath To Defend The Constitution Against All Enemies Foreign AND Domestic
Having never served in the U.S. Military, I read an interesting article the other day that pointed out the unique responsibility of the officer vs the enlisted in the ARMY.
“There is a curious omission in the Officer oath which implies a serious responsibility. An American Officer does not swear to obey. They are still legally bound to obey orders, but are not morally bound to do so.
Here are the Army Oaths:
The Oath of Enlistment:
“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
The Officer Oath:
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”
Early in US Military History, Officers swore to obey the President and officers appointed above him. This underwent a number of revisions (including the Civil War era oath) and ultimately, the oath to obey was deliberately removed.
Both enlisted men and officers swear to support and defend the Constitution. This means they uphold the laws and judicial interpretation of the Constitution and will defend it against all threats. But only Enlisted swear to obey the President and Officers above them. Enlisted men must carry out the mission, even if they do not understand the objectives.
Article 90, 91, and 92 of the UCMJ require all soldiers to willfully obey lawful orders given by a senior NCO or Officer. This excludes orders which violate domestic and international law or responsibility for carrying out orders you never received. If you obey an illegal order to commit a war crime or crime against American citizens, you will be punished.
Officers in the US Military are morally bound to disobey certain orders. Officers are the protectors of the Constitution and must view all orders with the Constitution in mind. They are not morally bound to obey even the Commander-in-Chief if the order conflicts with the Constitution.
It is the burden of officers, not enlisted, to determine if controversial orders violate the Constitution. What orders and under what circumstances? That’s a unique responsibility.”
In short, former Generals McChrystal and Patraeus have both violated their sworn oaths to defend the Constitution by embracing gun control and wanting to violate the second amendment rights of the American people.
AmericanThinker.com writes, “McChrystal and Petraeus rose through the ranks during decades of abysmal military and foreign-policy failure in the Middle East. The U.S. military has been involved in Afghanistan, covertly or overtly, since the 1979 Soviet invasion. The U.S. military has been overtly involved in Iraq continuously since 1990.
“Neither country is better off, or less of a threat, after decades of U.S. involvement.
“Had it not been for U.S. involvement in Afghanistan in the 1980s, shooter Omar Mateen’s father, and Mateen himself, probably would never have been in the U.S. at all. The U.S. policy of assisting mujahedeen in the 1980s backfired when some of the so-called “freedom fighters” morphed into al-Qaeda in the 1990s. And the U.S. attempt to back militias to overthrow Bashar al-Assad in Syria very likely led to the rise of ISIS.
“Now, two generals who achieved prominence for their contributions to those failures think you shouldn’t have a gun.”
These Same Generals Are Responsible For Arming 100,000’s of Iraq & Afghanistan Civilians With AK-47’s & AR-15’s and Now Want To Take Away YOUR Guns
The worst part about this is the hypocrisy.
Afghan and Iraqi civilians in war zones formerly commanded by these generals were allowed to keep their AK-47’s for self-protection and now they want to take your guns by embracing gun control in America!
As NY Times reported in 2003, “At the time, the list of automatic weapons to be banned specifically included AK-47 Kalashnikovs, the Russian assault rifles that are nearly ubiquitous in Iraq. But that approach came under heavy criticism from many Iraqis, who argued that families and business owners badly needed the weapons to defend themselves from looters and organized criminal gangs.
“That criticism apparently had an effect … an Arabic-language flyer now being distributed in neighborhoods says Iraqi citizens can keep certain automatic weapons inside their homes and businesses.
Asked today whether Iraqis would be allowed to keep assault rifles in their homes, a spokesman for Mr. Bremer said, ”Yes, they will be allowed to keep their AK-47’s.””
Former General Petraeus was in charge in Iraq when the Pentagon lost track of about 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles and pistols given to Iraq security forces in 2004 and 2005.
Former General McChrystal is no better. A U.S. audit from 2014 revealed that the Pentagon lost track of many of the 465,000 light weapons the U.S. supplied to Afghan security forces. As the same newsweek article reports, many of those weapons lost were U.S. Military M-16’s that were being used against American soldiers by the Taliban.
Gun Control For You, While Arming Terrorists, Failed States And Mexican Cartels …
Much like Obama and Eric Holder — who ran guns used to kill Americans to Mexican cartels with operation Fast & Furious — McChrystal and Petraeus are hypocrites.
Obama’s entire foreign policy has been about sending guns and “actual heavy weapons” to very destabilized countries to arm “rebels”. It has led to ARMING the very people the Obama administration is claiming they are fighting — terrorists.
And of course, you realize that this same administration is responsible for arming ISIS? All those lost weapons go somewhere.
“According to Reuters, the U.S.-made weaponry that fell into enemy hands including 2,300 Humvee armored vehicles, at least 40 M1A1 main battle tanks, 74,000 machine guns, and as many as 52 M198 howitzer mobile gun systems, plus small arms and ammunition.
Although al-Abadi and other Iraqi and U.S. officials haven’t attached a dollar sign to the lost weaponry and vehicles, a back-of-the-envelope calculation of those losses might look something like this:
- 2,300 Humvee armored vehicles @ $70,000 per copy. Total: $161 million
- 40 M1A1 Abram tanks @ $4.3 million per copy. Total: $172 million
- 52 M198 Howitzer mobile gun systems @ $527,337 per copy. Total: $27.4 million
- 74,000 Army machine guns @ $4,000 per copy. Total: $296 million
The grand total comes to $656.4 million, but experts say those losses represent just a portion of the many hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of U.S.-supplied military equipment that has fallen into ISIS’s hands and is being used against the U.S. and allied forces on the ground in Iraq and neighboring Syria.
Don’t forget about the $500 Million Worth of Weapons The Pentagon lost track of in Yemen …
But it’s ok, these same people want to disarm YOU the American civilian.
I Have No Respect For These Two Enemies of The Constitution & The American People
What do you think?
Am I over-reacting or do you think that both former General McChrystal and Petraeus are hypocrites and enemies of the Constitution of the United States that they swore to defend?
IMHO, these changes in position are nothing but warrior’s remorse, whether sincerely heartfelt or outrageously pragmatic. As we all age, and see the packing house coming, we start to review, reconsider and re-evaluate. At least, the serious minded do so.
There are examples of such radical changes throughout U.S. military history. Also, in the case of Petraeus, the prudent observer shoud consider the currying of favor with trendy, well-financed opinion setters, other elites and selected foundations, all of whom are critical to his rehabilitation and a more generous cash flow.
Sounds to me like they sold out the country they took an oath to protect for money like most politicians and especially Democrats. This puts them squarely in the traitor category.
Officers in the U.S. military services have been politicians for a very long time. Most, but by no means all, higher ranking officers are very accomplished at polishing their image, gathering brownie points, currying favor, and following in step with the current ideas that are accepted. These men and women have given their loyalty to themselves and they have no loyalty to the Constitution.
The problem is that a large portion of the people have bought the altruistic lie that utopia can be obtained for all if only……..(we all know the things that come after, no guns, more government control, less population, and so on.) A person who lives a life as described above, whether in military or government service, does not believe the altruistic lie; they are much too intelligent for that. But, they will act as if they do believe, in order to advance their own personal status.
In other words, these people have no loyalty to anything or anyone but themselves. Oaths of office mean nothing to them, as they are much more important than their word of honor. They deserve only contempt from us, as do all oath breakers.
A liar is just a that, a liar who only has loyalty to themselves. If a person cannot keep their oath of office, they should resign that office. The Constitution states clearly that the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. All gun control is in violation of the Constitution and any person that holds an office in the military or government that advocates gun control should resign or be removed from office.
he will lose his pension if he does not do this.
Worse than hypocrites,TRAITORS to the United States of America and her people and should be SHOT by firing squad!!!!!!!!
Agreed. Captiol one offense period. Failure of swored oath equal death penalty
IF we had decent laws concerning gun acquisition and IF we had clearer understanding of mental illness and IF we could learn to see evil when it arises, I could support background checks to deny certain people as risks for abusing the use of a weapon. But again, bad guys do not play by the rules. If the bad guy has reason to believe he cannot pass a background check, he simply gets someone who can to get the weapons for him. Also, guns are not the only weapon that has been used. World wide today, explosives in various forms work quite well. We have not had a bomber in this country to use massive explosives and I think we are about due for another one. Let us keep that in mind before we pout all our eggs in one basket.
It is people like these that has done the greatest harm to all the innocent people of the world. And who needs enemies when we have them every where.. May be they will fall as victims someday to these evil people.. Or may be a love one of theirs will fall as a victim.
Just image all the blood that is on their hands.. They are as guilty as the killers are. They may not even shed a tear over one of their own child, because l can not see them living their life out as they are now and they have no compassion any ways.. They have to be living on the edge of insane freaks
There are warrior generals and political generals. Petraeus and McChrystal are political generals. At one time, when he was in charge in the Mideast, Adm. Fallon called Petraeus, in a meeting of high ranking officers, an ass kissing little chicken shit. He is. That’s why politicians like him so much.
Bending over for Obamnation ,nothing but traitors to our country.Hope they choke on the blood money they took. Hope there family’s really proud of the pencil necks. Hell if my father would have turned traitor I would have to end his life. what a disgrace. Injustice to the American people. How can they even show their muggs in society. They should find a rock to slither under.
They need a rock to slither under a rock.They need to be shot for being the traitors they are. What a crock of shit. If my father did such an act he would be disowned. Wonder how much Hitlary paid and Obamanation paid them I’m sure it was a great amount. Just look at them you can see they can’t even think for themselfs what fucking puppets. someone please cut the damn strings holding them up their disgraceful.
I believe when Obama violated the constitution as he did, that it was the military’s responsibility
to take control until a new government could be formed. Every one that voted contrary to
the constitution should have been arrested and put in jail.
Now they are showing there real colors and those are yellow. What a disappointment to the American people.I thought they were heroes and boy what a dam mistake that was.Now they are traitors just like Obama.
DISPICIBLE, COWARDLY & TRAITORS!
As a retired USAF Captain and aircraft commander, I find the limiting of this article to these two generals abominable. What about the thousands of oath-swearing employees and elected officials of the government, going back to the earliest oath swearing? One need go no further than our present Congress to note that almost all of them break their oath of office daily by taking part in the business of government. Ever since the passing of the Federal Reserve Act and the Income tax laws, any and all government parties are oath breakers, as these two acts cannot be justified under the limits of the Constitution. Yes, an amendment was “passed” allowing for direct taxation, but it was NEVER properly ratified. Oh the Nine Robes said otherwise, but that merely underlines just how Rogue our government has become. How many readers know that there were two versions of the amendment authorizing direct taxation? That the amendments were never reconciled, and that some states approved one version, while others the other? Our constitution provides that the Treasury Department, through Congress, shall regulate the value of our money – not an independent and foreign banking cartel. Any time a Congress critter votes yes or no to anything to do with government appropriations, he breaks his oath. Until this Crime-of-the-century is prosecuted, there can be no business of government which is constitutional.
The Federal Reserve Bank (Private, and foreign) creates money with the stroke of a computer key, loans it to our treasury, at interest, and our income tax is used to pay the interest, laundering this phony money through extortion (just try to avoid participating in this grand larceny). The National Debt is just as phony as the money created to produce it. We are just one major international financial crisis away from being debt free, were we governed by a party with the cajones to do it. Our entire financial involvement, debt and all, are felonious, and everyone knows that a debt created by a felony need not be honored.
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it!
I’m with you!
But given that our usual topic around this website is guns and your gun rights, singling out these two particular people makes a lot of sense as they have now turned against the gun rights of the American people.
The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809.ART.90 (20), makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the “lawful command of his superior officer,” 891.ART.91 (2), the “lawful order of a warrant officer”, 892.ART.92 (1) the “lawful general order”, 892.ART.92 (2) “lawful order”. In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ.
The UCMJ applies to all service members. It could be argued that the differing oaths imposes a somewhat greater burden and scope of responsibility on officers. That said; any general officer who rose to or retained his or her rank under Obama had to make concessions that compromised the oath.
TWO WORDS ONLY—GOODBYE AMERICA
Its called TREASON, Take both of these lowlife bastards out and HANG the scumbags…
I think they should be tied to a pole and some of us should be allowed to preform the duty of firing squad …….I volunteer to serve in that capacity and i promise to do a better job at my duties than they did at theirs. One wonders if they ever were trying to serve us properly or were they always taking care of somebody else
I’ve said it before, the first to be disarmed are the Secret Service, FBI, DHS, BLM, EPA and then any private security firms protecting any celebrities who are anti gun liberals as can be proven by past remarks and news footage, tweets, etc. . Then and only then when all their weapons are accounted for by serial number and they are melted down and turned into Altoids tins, can the government proceed to disarm the citizens!
These two generals are certainly excellent military commanders, but who would have guessed they would be political jerks, something that has infested and put on the road to ruin, our great military forces. They are looking at the American population as the enemy to be disarmed and then what? The two heroes think they will step in and defend us from Jihadis or a corrupt, tyrannical federal government? Who would have believed that men who have achieved such success in combat would have their heads secured where the sun don’t shine?
I have been referring to the one Retired General as BetrayUs and that is just what he has done.
It shouldn’t be a huge surprise that Petraeus would be in favor of any type of gun control or of restricting their use to only the government. While serving as CIA Director he commented on how happy he was to be able to use modern technology (common appliances linked to Internet) to spy on US. The CIA should not be spying on America, but he was.
The more involved a person is with Leviathan, the greater the opportunity for the State to brainwash them. Great men have heard the Sirens of Odysseus and succumb to the temptation of what power gives them. Anyone who is a ruler will eventually want to rule over all. No guns = no way to stop them from obtaining their end goal.
This generation will need to make a decision. Is liberty worth fighting for? Americans have historically been willing to suffer. Today, if the Internet goes down for an hour, some say they have suffered unconscionable distress and unable to go on. Perhaps only 3% remain who are willing and able to water the Tree of Liberty with their blood and that of tyrants. Perhaps this is the last generation to know freedom. I hope not.
what they did was childs play compared to what hillery has done
Both should take a 65% cut in their Retirement pay from the Military
As a former Vet we took the oath but if it came to harming the citizens of our country there would be no way we would go to their homes to disarm them , even though it would be against the presidents orders . But back in those days the president never had a thought in his head to disarm his citizens . They would become the home town militia of the U.S. None of us had anything to do with Brady getting shot or President Reagan either . Brady’s wife started that fiasco back then . Then here comes a good ole boy from the south that got railroaded into passing a ban on Assault weapons for a time then it took a dive . He would rather have Hoochie mamas than worry about guns . Then the Astronaut’s wife got shot by accident and the gun bans tried to start up again . We owners of guns again had nothing to do with it but they tried again to disarm the people . I’m happy all is well with his wife and respect that . But backoff the registered gun owners that bought them legally . Go after the gang bangers in the the cities they run . There the prez goes again saying let them go . And turn and come after the average guy
I firmly believe that this country would be a whole lot better off if we could just take those two generals, Obumer, and Clikton line them up and just shoot them!!! Clicton especially for her deal of getting four
Americans killed in Benghazi!!!!!
I’m so worried these people (democrats & traitors) r getting the beginning of the end of these United States right in line with (Osama ) Obama’s Muslim agenda and we r all in for a civil war right here in our own homes. Just like the other world wars only on our home ground instead of Europe and the middle east… Please may God have mercy on us…. Oh and not their version of god either!! Please let us all vote correctly! !!!!!!!!
The president does not support or defend our Constitution either. He is one of our worst enemies by allowing foreigners to come into our country and demand that taxpayers foot the bill for all their demands. He is trying his best to make America a third world country. I can’t believe how many supposedly intelligent people can’t see the forest for the trees. God help us and the USA. If our military forces keep getting cut, we better have guns to protect ourselves when the sh*t hits the fan. We do not need to keep letting every tom, dick and harry into America to create all of this crap. I think if Obama likes these foreigners so well, we shoyld send him to their country. He should have been charged with treason and put in prison long before now. And God help us if Hillary becomes President….we will have 4 more years of Obama’s sh*t since she has her nose so far up his as* that she will continue to tear apart America just like he has done.
We know you just don’t loose things like tanks and guns!!! The Government knows who has what guns here in America so when they try and outlaw them they know who to grab and lock up. They didn’t loose anything but rather gave it to them folks. Wake up are Fake Ass Government lies to us everyday don’t they!!! No body is turning the guns in here in America so Mr Obamachrist can go to hell cause that’s were he belongs not us Christian born Americans you defend our Constitutional Rights! We will have to make a stand folks because we aren’t going to take it!!! Stand for your rights or stand for nothing folks! And I do believe voting won’t do us much good anymore because none of the politicians except a hand full back us up anymore. Vote Trump and let’s make America Great Again!!!
2 scumbags who are working with the one world order muslin monkey who need to be tried and sentenced to death for treason and crimes aganust America and Americans….
Either these generals are big Democrats or they are being blackmailed into saying this. I can’t believe that military people would say anything like this. Petraeus is probably having this hanging over his head to keep himself from going to prison for mishandling classified documents and his fraternization with the woman that he had an affair with. I don’t know anything about McChrystal’s political leanings, so he might be a liberal.
It is a sad day when these men choose this.
Both need to lose 80%of their Military retirement pay to
This post is a knee-jerk reaction to an amorphous, ill-defined term (“gun control”). I’m a former Army Officer (Vietnam) and a lifelong member of the NRA. When I look around at the attacks on citizens by armed felons and mass shootings by people who are clearly mentally ill, I’m in favor of gun control, myself. First, get the cops to focus on disarming felons with firearms and getting the feds to put them away. Second, make mental health providers responsible for reporting those with defined mental illnesses (e.g., schizophrenia and bipolar disorder) to the national database that would prevent them from buying guns. Third, create a protocol for issuing concealed carry permits, and exempt properly qualified and certified CCW holders from restrictions imposed by most so-called “gun free” zones. Finally, since you don’t have a clue what the generals had in mind when they made their comments, it’s entirely irresponsible for you to promote this kangaroo trial atmosphere. These men have put more on the line over their careers than you ever have (or will), and your judgment is highly questionable.
CONGRESSWOMAN GABBY GIFFORD, Held an outdoor town hall meeting, yet failed to provide, ask, demand for a few police officers for protection, HOW DUMB IS THAT? PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING, she met in private for 45 minutes, a second meeting never took place. This data from C-Span.
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