I’m not one for conspiracy theories …
But, there is something weird going on.
As you’re about to see, there are some very suspicious things going on with the Ft. Lauderdale Airport shooting incident.
Ft. Lauderdale Gunman Told FBI “the government controlled his mind and forced him to watch ISIS videos”
Estaban Santiago, the 26-year-old airline passenger accused of shooting up a baggage claim area at the Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood airport visited the FBI Anchorage field office and told officers
“… the government controlled his mind and forced him to watch ISIS videos“.
Keep in mind, this is not just being reported on so-called “fake news” websites (according to the mainstream media, any media/news source that is not influenced by the political regime in Washington is a “fake news” site). This is all over mainstream media news too.
In fact, I took a screenshot of the CNN story that I first read this on, just in case it later gets removed (obviously emphasis of red box and arrow are mine):
In other words, this gunman — the father of a baby in September — is claiming a US Intelligence agency was controlling his mind and forcing him to watch Islamic State videos.
Although nobody is claiming this is Islamic Terrorism yet, the following picture shows him doing what appears to be the Islamic State salute:
This is important. From Foreign Affairs (emphasis mine):
“When ISIS militants hold up a single index finger on their right hands, they are alluding to the tawhid, the belief in the oneness of God and a key component of the Muslim religion. The tawhid comprises the first half of the shahada, which is an affirmation of faith, one of the five pillars of Islam, and a component of daily prayers: “There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”
It is no surprise, then, that the shahada features prominently in ISIS’ public image. The group’s black flag bears the vow’s words in white Arabic script (as does Hamas’ and even Saudi Arabia’s). And Muslims have long associated a single index finger with the shahada in a variety of contexts, ranging from daily prayers to conversions.
But for ISIS, the symbol is more sinister than a mere declaration of monotheistic beliefs. As Salafi jihadists, members of the group adhere to a fundamentalist interpretation of tawhid that rejects non-fundamentalist regimes as idolatrous. In other words, the concept of tawhid is central to ISIS’ violent and uncompromising posture toward its opponents, both in the Middle East and in the West.
When ISIS militants display the sign, to one another or to a photographer, they are actively reaffirming their dedication to that ideology, whose underlying principle demands the destruction of the West. If rank-and-file soldiers are aware of the precise theological implications of their sign — and it would be no surprise if they are — that would be a sobering comment on their deep-seated opposition to pluralism.
The gesture is equally important for what it means to Westerners, most of whom cannot read Arabic. By raising their index fingers, militants send an easy-to-understand message of the group’s goals of theological supremacy and military hegemony. When potential ISIS recruits in London, New York, or Sydney see the symbol on Twitter, they can grasp the scale of ISIS’ ambitions and its underlying aims. At some visceral level, less-radicalized viewers understand that it means dominance.”
He certainly seems to be embracing Islam.
It’s a Fact That The FBI Has Been Funding, Provoking, And Helping “Create” Terror Plots Since 9/11
Again, I’m not one for conspiracies.
That’s why the truth is so interesting here.
It’s a well-documented fact that the FBI uses a portion of its budget to hire informants. They also reach out to people and — posing as terrorists — offer help, assistance, guidance, and even weapons & money for terrorist plots.
Then they “bust” those guys that they basically “setup”.
Again, this is not conspiracy theory or even conjecture here, this is documented. The TED Talk below explains the situation rather effectively:
In 2012, Petra Bartosiewicz in The Nation reviewed the post-9/11 body of terrorism cases and concluded:
Nearly every major post-9/11 terrorism-related prosecution has involved a sting operation, at the center of which is a government informant. In these cases, the informants — who work for money or are seeking leniency on criminal charges of their own — have crossed the line from merely observing potential criminal behavior to encouraging and assisting people to participate in plots that are largely scripted by the FBI itself. Under the FBI’s guiding hand, the informants provide the weapons, suggest the targets and even initiate the inflammatory political rhetoric that later elevates the charges to the level of terrorism.
It appears to be easier to manufacture terrorist plots than to find ones in actual progress. To quote FBI assistant director Thomas Fuentes:
“If you’re submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you’re not going to submit the proposal that “We won the war on terror and everything’s great,” cuz the first thing that’s gonna happen is your budget’s gonna be cut in half. You know, it’s my opposite of Jesse Jackson’s ‘Keep Hope Alive’—it’s ‘Keep Fear Alive.’ Keep it alive.”
Omar Matteen, the Orlando Nightclub shooter was also approached by FBI informants and they tried to get him to do some terrorist attacks. The FBI said he did not take the “bait”. They closed their investigation on him. He later shot up the Orlando Gay Nightclub – murdering 49 people.
It Makes You Wonder … How Many of These Terror Attacks Are the Ones The FBI Instigated But Failed To Stop?
I’m not saying there is some vast “illuminati” conspiracy here.
Not at all.
I am saying that, it is actual fact the FBI uses provokes and attempts to “help” suspected domestic terrorists to commit terrorist attacks … so they can later stop the attack and arrest them.
(Whether this works or not, I don’t have the knowledge or experience to judge. But we do know it’s happening.)
What I’m wondering is …
How many of these terrorist attacks were inspired, planned, and encouraged by the FBI at some point. The — often mentally unstable — suspect backed out. Then later — after he was no longer a subject of the FBI’s interest — thought to himself, “you know, that wasn’t that bad of an idea …” and then goes on to commit a horrific act of mass murder/terrorism.
Further, how many of these terrorist plots are created by the FBI to achieve political goals? Like say, committing a mass shooting with a firearm carried in checked baggage to inspire popular outrage in the hopes of further gun control?
What are your thoughts? Think this is some vast Government conspiracy? Or maybe just some rather reckless “counter terrorism” strategy that has backfired?
I’m not much for conspiracy theories either, partly because conspiracies of any size are so hard to coordinate, let alone keep secret, and partly because there is almost always a more logical, less complicated (Occam’s Razor) explanation. In this case, the FL murderer is behaving exactly the way I would expect a paranoid schizophrenic with “command hallucinations” and paranoid delusions about the govt, to behave. He most likely presented himself to the FBI in AK because he was so bothered by hallucinations telling him to do things, and he was unable to disobey the hallucinations effectively. He probably hoped the FBI, a govt agency with a good reputation, that he likely saw as the agency that could help him, was the safest place to go for help-and they did help him. They appropriately identified him as a nutcase and referred him to the local police, who sent him to a hospital for psychiatric eval/treatment. Which he reportedly received. He was reportedly undergoing treatment from then on. If you are obeying command hallucinations that tell you to embrace, or act like, an ISIS guy, you would do exactly the kind of thing he did in his photo, finger and all. So far, everything makes good sense and fits with a paranoid schizophrenic with that kind of delusions and hallucinations.
As for the FBI planning and instigating terrorist acts – maybe, but if you think about it, infiltrating a terrorist group is probably the best way to get intel on what they are doing. If they exercise any kind of opsec at all, they would keep details of their specifically planned ops very close and need-to-know only. Thus, the easiest way for the FBI’s inside guy to disrupt their ops is to set up a plan himself (so he’s in the need-to-know loop), which, I suppose, is essentially “instigating” an op. That can take several of the group’s people off the street, even though the FBI’s agent never got access to some of the other things they were planning (because of their opsec). This makes a lot more sense to me than theorizing some kind of high level govt conspiracy – to do what, exactly? Increase the FBI budget? Especially in today’s climate regarding terrorism and ISIS, that hardly seems necessary, and the downside if they got caught would be pretty bad. Just look at all the internal and extra-agency problems that were caused by Director Comey’s refusal to seek an indictment over Hillary’s E-mail scandal. Imagine how much worse it would be if they were caught creating terrorist actions within the US just to look good.
On the other hand, other agencies have done just that in the past. That is essentially what happened to the ATF at Waco. They staged a fake op which they didn’t think would be opposed, turned out to be wrong, and they took a huge hit for it. There were serious calls for disbanding the agency over that. I think they actually got their budget cut, rather than increased as they planned. But the ATF has always been a rogue agency willing to play fast and loose with the laws and the Constitution, while the FBI has the opposite reputation, and I suspect they want to keep it.
Sounds exactly alike the reasoning of “Plausibel Deniability” that a Socialist/Communist Liberal would use. That is exactly how they gain more and more control.
Initiate the hallucinations, create an agenda, cause the acts through an otherwise “unknown outlet”, enact the event, deny any involvement upon event, create more terror, repeat!
Have you not noticed the lack of involvement in certain cases where the FBI are supposed to be, and always appearing where unnecessary. Have you not noticed the lack of involvement of the BATF, Homeland Security, and others like the CIA?
It’s fairly evident that they’re involvement is to continue playing it out when the violence begins to settle. It’s fear they love to create in order to gain control as to provoke necessity towards Martial Law.
You should work for the government. YOu are quite persuasive. But you failed. I do get that ALL of the terrorists caught so far were enticed and maybe entrapped into their demise. I also get that if the FBI had not done it they could have self-activated. But you are forgetting. The FBI is still accountable for their part. It is like lighting a fuse and when the bomb does not go off IMMEDIATELY, you decide that it was a dud. WRONG.
Now go back to Soros and tell him you failed.
FBI wants to keep their reputation? Are you kidding. You forgot Comey. The agency is only as good as all of the components. But the biggie is ALWAYS THE HEAD.
is there anything thew government can do right these days , besides raising taxes to pay for their wasteful spending and giving them selves raises every year
As a Christian, when I hold up one index finger, it means “ONE WAY: JESUS CHRIST.” That has been around for many decades. I am not about to let these usurpers who like to take over Christians churches and land and anything else to make it their own.
ONE WAY: JESUS CHRIST.
Now don’t hold your breath and expect the media to report that the FBI motivated all these terrorists. What are you thinking. If Americans KNEW that they caused it, HEADS WOULD ROLL. (They should)
I left a post on another site saying that I believed something like this maybe was happening. I believe that is happens way too much. Should the FBI be help responsible for these persons actions. If you take a person that is weak or mentally ill, they can maybe be made to do about anything. If you yell SNAKE OR FIRE when there is no snake or fire enough times, when there really is a snake or fire no one believes you and someone gets bit or dies. I believe that many of the shootings in this country (most all done be democrats or like minded persons) (CHECK FOR YOUR SELF) are of this same type of situation. TO PROMOTE GUN CONTROL “Sandy Hook” was a staged event and never happened. Here again check for your self to see the truth. JUST BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT TO BE TRUE DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS TRUE. Another example of the snake or fire yelling.
I believe that the government is behind most of the mass shootings in the country. And by government I mean liberals. They want people to be afraid and protest for more Gun control.
they got caught doing that very thing ,but it came out in court that the ”terrorist” they were saying had masterminded the event was a semi-retarded teenager,who could barely conjugate a verb ,i’m thinking they burned him down any way to make the case
Everything on the mainstream media and now with the websites has to be taken with close examination it is all meant to lead you in a certain direction herd you like cattle, the problem is most people believe the first thing they see with out REALLY looking into what is reported. sorry to say but these are some F_ _KED up times watch very carefully who and what you put your trust in. there is a vast resource of info. out there use it before even that is taken away.
There always seems to be more questions than answers, more possibilities than exact –this is what happened. Like Chris R says — everything has to be analyzed time and again before coming to any kind of reasonable conclusion, if then. It is a fact that these liberal demorats will go to any length or stoop to any low to promote gun control to make American citizens defenseless or to promote obama’s quest to declare martial law. Everyone is aware that our government involves themselves in selling weapons to our enemies and their many failed operations. There doesn’t seem to be any proof positive that the FBI is behind this shooting but it is certainly in the realm of possibilities of what they and this administration is capable of.
Everything in the bo appointed crony administration for 8 years has been suspect of deceitful abuse of power to destroy the U.S. fundamental Constitutional government internally and bo proves it with his illegal E.O.’s … !
All right. Worked for the “FED” for some 30 years, also for State and Local. False Flags are not the problem. Its just Incompetents who REFUSE to admit when they made a mistake. AKA Waco. Was briefed by a Tactical Commander from ATF as well as others and the problem there was, yes, they had reason to believe Koresh may have been making illegal explosives (reloading dewat grenades). BUT, they could have had Koresh meet with the Sheriff, or the Texas Rangers, he respected both, and then escorted him to the compound. No fuss. But they wanted to make a big Flash in the Pan for Budget Hearings. No False Flag. Just a COVERUP when everything was screwed up, and over 20 kids were killed because the FBI did not know what they were doing. Most Conspiracies are COVER UPS, not proactive False Flags. Do the Fan Belt Inspectors have Informants who probably entice people sometimes? Yes, because the FEEBEES have always had problems handling informants. Again, Incompetence in their Job, NOT False Flag. The Gov’t lacks the ability In this day of the Web to hide anything for long. 🙂
P38L5 … I have never seen anything suggesting Waco was a false flag. However I have seen the supposed “retaliation” at OKC called a false flag many times and that one I would tend to believe.
OK then, I think we’re on the same page “P28L5” …
I don’t think anyone can deny the actual fact that one of the FBI’s main methods at this point is finding, funding, recruiting/instigating these terrorists events (it’s well documented).
My further reasoning makes sense right? “It Makes You Wonder … How Many of These Terror Attacks Are the Ones The FBI Instigated But Failed To Stop?”
Well, Caleb. You probably don’t want to know. But doesn’t just the fact that most of the main ‘terrorist sleeper cells and lone wolf jihadists mass killing incidents seem to have been on the government’s radar at some point, one way or the other before the incident raise some Red (false) Flags?
P38 I’ve got a few more years on you in the same venues including military. You’re right about Waco in terms of the inside reason for the raid, but they still ‘set up’ a major incident when they simply could have had the sheriff pick him up when he was out of the compound. So why is that any different than ‘re-directing’ and persuading through hypnosis a mentally ill person to act out physically in a specific direction? Both are examples of manipulating circumstances and people for an agenda based purpose. The ATF launched a raid they knew that cognitively deficient religionists would interpret as an attack and respond accordingly.
It’s much easier these days to do ‘mind-control’ with a single individual than launch a stage II assault raid on a fortified compound, LOL! We’re all already used to it in so many ways already. Friday night prayers at the mosque are nothing more or less than ‘mind-control’. It’s child’s play for mind-control behavior ‘experts’ to push a nascent latent wannabe over their tipping point.
And incompetence has always been a part of the curse of law enforcement and the criminal justice system, which has been thoroughly corrupted since back the first official NYC cop took his first apple of the street cart and the ‘Eye’ has been corrupted so badly since the first day Hoover took over that it should have had the Nazi flag standing in its headquarters.
I’m not going to get myself started on this but suffice to say this ‘Cancer’ of corruption has trickled up and down all rank and file and sundry agencies and departments to where the system is now terminal. Even the judiciary is shot. Along with privacy and liberties.
False flags are nothing new if you’ve learned even a modicum of real history. They are replete throughout history. There’s clear evidence that most of our military-industrial complex controlled started with ‘false flags’.
The rapid scale up in the Viet Nam War over the Gulf of Tonkin incident is an exemplary. We were just better at getting things covered up back then because it was easier. (no www. no smart phones, etc.) Today, the ‘wild card’ factor and various investigative tools and techniques by ‘outsiders’ make it easier to dig into things but just like the Oklahoma bombing, and 911, where government conspiracy evidence kind of boots you in the ass even if you decide to ignore/deny it prove that ‘They’ can still cover things up…one way or another.
Agents, detectives, investigators and cops know what’s going on. Especially if they were on the particular case. You can’t NOT if you’ve still got only one eye and half your hearing. But they don’t want to lose their jobs or get blackballed from higher up. So they just STFU, do what they’re instructed/ordered to do and/or transfer out if they really can’t stand what’s going on in a particular environment.
I know you’ve heard of ‘sandbagging’ somebody to set up another party. Especially in the narcotics units. You can’t deny that because there are literally thousands of documented court cases verifying this. And there’s even a website for officers telling them how to use planted drug residue to affect a raid to profit from under the Nazi asset forfeiture laws that Ron Paul was against.
Well consider false flags just an extension of that, incompetence notwithstanding.
And they’ve evolved where they have the ultimate solution when they have a hard time hiding it or it just won’t go away. Like the Bundy/Malhuer wildlife refuge standoff incidient. It was gaining too much anti-G momentum and shining the bright spotlight of exposure on backdoor BLM corruption.
So they used their newest tactic to shut it all down. Summary execution by government ninjas in black facemasks. . They get away with it now because police no longer need to be in fear of their lives in the presence of imminent danger before shooting according to recent corrupt court rulings.
All they have to do ‘/think/believe’ they see a gun (and it doesn’t even have to be pointed at them), even though it turns out to be a cell phone, a wallet, or just an empty hand pointing a finger! As long as the officer ‘thought’ he/she had a gun, they can execute you.
Nothing like your life hanging in the balance of an ‘uneducated’ guess?
But that’s how it has to be with Totalitarianism.
Next they’ll be doing house to house illegal entry anti-4th/A warrantless blanket searches on entire neighborhoods just to conclude a foot chase of a criminal! Or bypass the whole Due Process issue with an on the spot police firing squad just because the criminal won’t give up. Even though they police are not in harms way!?
Oh wait. They already are doing that. They did mass illegal home invasions and property damage and threatening of innocent civilians with the Boston bomber chase. And in Texas when the shooter was trapped in a corner with no escape, wounded, and going nowhere.
They sent in a robot with a block of C-4 and summarily executed him by blowing him to pieces.
No P38L5, my friend. It’s a long way from just on the job incompetence.
Also a TON of great points and examples from recent and not-so-recent history.
Especially the Boston Marathon city house-to-house search. And wouldn’tyaknowit? They are making a movie about it now — and going tell you how “heroic” and “patriotic” that lockdown of the city was.
Very interesting times to say the least.
As you said, and I’ve said before, thank God we live in this day and age where all this is recorded, discussed and info spreads as fast as it is — it’s about the only thing left that keeps totalitarianism at bay (internet, spartphones, etc)
Oh I just can’t wait to see that one. Ironically, the only part that will probably be accurate is when it was over they had a Patton-like victory parade with all the police state government ‘donated’ 400k APCs and Swat vehicles rolling down the streets and people lined up on the sidewalks were actually cheering!
If you ever get a chance, check out the movie “The 5ifth Estate’. It’s an interesting and insightful movie based on real events with the actors playing Julian Asasange and his co-founder Benedict about the WikiLeaks phenomenon/history and gets into just how critical and complicated the www is to espionage and Main Stream Media and how WikiLeaks became better than even the NSA/CIA for a while in terms of knowing what’s going on in the world. And, most importantly, who really wins in the end…
And I’d also be giving thanks for the good fortune of being able to temporarily sidetrack Totalitarianism by electing Trump this time. We were about to go full blast Hunger Games society if Hillary’s evil 3rd Reich sustained.
But we can’t just relax into a false sense of security, We have to keep up the momentum on these politicians until we can rescue, and Free and restore the Constitution. Because the ‘enemy’ never sleeps.
Thanks for recommending that movie, I’ve been meaning to watch that one!
Also the “hunger games” comment cracked me up.
What’s funny is that everyone assumes Trump will initiate the Hunger games. This is the funniest meme I saw during the elections:
Just shows how far Islamists will go to blame someone else for their actions. Are our Intelligence Agency’s reports and actions suspect? Yes, but people are responsible for their own actions and should face the consequences.
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