The Second Amendment is an almost sacred right to many Americans. I’m assuming that, because you are reading this, you are probably one of those Americans. So, if you’re reading this and you live in Deerfield, Illinois, you may have a fight on your hands.
Deerfield, a town of 18,225 people (as of the 2010 census) about twenty-five miles north of Chicago (that proximity may explain a lot), has gone for a full-out gun grab. Jack Burns gives us the details:
Residents in Deerfield, Illinois have 60 days to surrender their “assault weapons” or face fines of $1000 per day per gun.
The gun ban ordinance was passed on April 2nd with residents left with few choices of how to dispose of their valuable “assault weapons.” Upon careful reading of the ordinance, residents will be left with revolvers, .22 caliber “plinking” rifles, and double barrel shotguns to defend their homes and families from criminals who could care less about the law.
This is simply outrageous. There is no respect of resident’s right to protect themselves, and these people obviously have no idea of what being in an armed conflict is like. A .22 can do the job, but you had better aim well or shoot a lot of bullets (so that you have a better chance of a good hit) to do the job.
But, if you’re in a high stress situation such as confronting a robber or if a would-be rapist breaks into your house, your adrenaline levels shoot through the roof, thus making it difficult to have the accuracy that you would need with a .22 to deal with a committed criminal. So, yes, there is a reason to have a firearm that fires larger caliber ammunition. You may only hit that person once, and you need for that one shot to do the job.
And if you think that caliber is the only issue, then know this:
Also included in the gun ban were semi-automatic pistols which can accept higher than 10 round magazines. That’s virtually all full size semi-automatic pistols.
It would seem that the government in Deerfield is of the opinion that no one has the right to defend themselves when in danger except for police officers. What is unsaid is that felons aren’t going to worry about whether they have a “right” to have a firearm; they are just going to have them anyway.
If you are in Deerfield, you need to start looking at filing a lawsuit to stop this outrageous gun grab. Or you need to consider moving out of that town completely because it’s only going to get more dangerous.
I would not rely on any pistol for defence of my home. What I do rely on is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with OO (double ought) shells. Make a mess but can be cleaned up after the body is removed.
AR is shorter and easier to handle. Holds a lot more rounds too. Also makes a lot of noise like a shotgun. May just scare them to death!
I rely on a .45 auto 1911 for home defense. A legacy from my father made by Smith Corona with two spare mags, I use it as a carry weapon – and it goes where I go every day. I also have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge with the 19″ barrel I use when the 1911 is not enough for home defense, or if I can’t get to the 1911 fast enough. It is better to have both, rather than restricting yourself to only one firearm, as both have advantages the other doesn’t. I’ll never give either up for any reason or law. My son knows to come and get them immediately if I pass away, so that he gets to keep family heirlooms away from the gun grabbers.
I abandoned NY in 1988 because of their restrictive gun registrations, and moved to a state that is very firearm friendly to retire to. I haven’t regretted that decision at all. I have a seller that I can go to, put my money down, and walk out in 15 minutes, all legal and quick.
If you have to wait, or fill out a bunch of forms in your state, get out immediately and move to a state where firearm purchases are like mine. There are big exoduses by firearm owners from NY, California, Florida, and other more restrictive states that have bad firearm laws. Many gun makers and gunsmiths are moving away from these states. Why stay and be persecuted by unconstitutional gun laws – losing your freedoms and God given rights?
I also agree with Lawrence Squittieri’s post! Either practice with your choice of weapon, or get rid of it so you do not stupidly end an innocent life.
Unfortunately, I as a supporter of the second amendment I can not agree with your reasoning in support of the weaponry specified. You stated that in a high adrenaline situation a person may not hit his target and therefore needs to “spray” the area in hopes of hitting his target at least once …. this tells me that the person who can not react under stress does not deserve to own a semi or automatic weapon. Any gun owner should be responsible to get the training necessary to handle such weaponry, or any weapons under stressful situations or they may do more damage that ia unnecessary or unintended. Your argument is irrational and feeds into the anti gun lobbyists point of contention.
I support the second amendment BUT with RESPONSIBILITY and knowledge.
Our forefathers knew their weapons and they were well versed in their use under pressure.
I do not need some jackass fearing the unknown and spraying the area with lead only to discover that he paniced and erroneously ended an innocent life.
I understand what you are saying. But to say you aren’t under stress in a robbery or life or death situation is questionable. While shooting under stress can and should be trained for, discharging your weapon in your home during a robbery isn’t stress free. Family in another room, possibly behind your target, and the robbery itself creates stress in the shooter/protector. Your criminal couldn’t give a flying crap about what’s behind his/her target. You could shoot half a million rounds at the range or during active shooter drills stress would while minimized would still be present. Range training and drills improve the chances of a favorable outcome (bad guy dead on the floor). I agree training under stress is a must.
Comrade Squittieri, I suspect you’ve never been in a gunfight. Never had shot fired at you, nor ever fired a weapon in anger. If you think our soldiers are untrained, you have another “think” coming, I can guarantee you that 30 rounds in their magazines do not add up to 30 kills per magazine. The bad guys don’t just stand there like a deer in the headlights awaiting your perfectly aimed kill shot through the his left eyesocket, nor will the buddies be brought with him. Especially if they, too, are armed.
I am a former Police Officer and have been on both ends of a firearm and thankfully did not have to resort to deadly force. In a home invasion unless taken by surprise (wake up with someone standing over you) the best thing you can do is call 911 identify if it is a threat be armed and wait covered if possible. Several states have castle doctrine and you can open fire if you are threatened. I have no problem with that. I am sure that most CCW carriers and people concerned with home defense are no at all interested in getting in a quickdraw contest or a shootout. Self protection is just that you and your loved ones , but you do have to live with your actions and the result. Someone not taking action and letting a perp kill or harm your loved ones would not be acceptable for me to live with. Just a thought for the cowboys and heroes out there.
I understand your position as a former police officer on both ends of a firearm. I am a former advanced life support Paramedic, in a couple very bad cities in NJ. I know what it’s like to be at the receiving end of a firearm, many times, but was NOT allowed on the other side. At home, we have several firearms, Glock 17, Glock 22, Tica .308, and 2 Savage .22’s. One a “new” bolt action, and one with a 15 round “under barrel tube” magazine. Even in a bleeding heart liberal state like “aniti gun NJ”, My family and I are allowed to be armed with what we have. God help the dirtbag(‘s) that invade my home. I live in a VERY rural area of NJ. many square miles of farm field behind the woods, behind my property (acres), and across the street, 1 house on the road, many square miles of farm fields and more square miles of wood/forrest. My town doesn’t even have police, we depend on the State Police for ALL police calls. Average, 20-25 minutes response time. The state gov. cares NOTHING about the 80% of the state that isn’t “City/Close Suburban” area’s. 80% of “the Garden State” is still farmland or forests. (The Appalachian trail goes through NJ just north of me. We can’t vote out the a$$holes in Trentons, because the 20% of the state land area is Bleeding heart, Blue, Demon-Rats, who ONLY care about their “entitlements”. 80% of land area is Republican. 20% is city and liberal. But that’s enough to keep this state voting Demon-Rat and keeping us blue. It SUX, but until my wife and I retire, residency requirements DICTATE that we can’t move. I dare you to live in NJ and get a CCW. I was never hit, But as a medic, everyone can guess how many “shooting” I responded to. NO, the criminals WON’T obey gun laws. That’s why we need to be able to defend ourselves. 2nd amendment is our only chance. NO-ONE, nation wide, should have gun rights denied. (of course, except for CONVICTED felons and those proven to be mentally unstable0 but PROVEN mental illness, not just an angry EX stating he/she should be checked out as dangerous. Another law in several states that rips “due process” from law abiding citizens on an ex’s vindictive statement. A false statement should carry a year, mandatory, for falsely stating anything such thing. God bless the USA, and God bless President Trump.
Being a combat veteran even I could not say how I would react on a home invasion scenario.I do know that I hit what I aim at. But you Mr. Squittieri are an idiot if you think the bad guys entering your home care if you can shoot straight or not. Their #1 aim is to rob you and take you down as soon as they can. Good luck in your unarmed city. Just outside of Chicago huh, real good place to be unarmed.
Sorry,
But if some MORON kicks MY door in at night, I don’t consider this person “innocent” and I WILL defend my home and family no matter WHO does this). MYSELF I have been “trained” and always have my 12 gauge browning auto five loaded up with 00 buck or 4 buck right by my bed. (I also have a .45 ACP on my nightstand at the ready.) My wife has a .357 Magnum on HER nightstand. You kick MY door down an intend on doing harm, or ROB, you WILL NOT leave my home except in a body bag.
I hope you are not saying that we as modern day patriots are not well versed in firearms handling?
Instead of stating “facts” maybe you need to ask first………?
Lawrence >> I AGREE that plenty of training and practice is part of that “Well Disciplined” status…and is downright necessary…
BUT… few if any “firing ranges” anywhere close to Chicago are going to have training options such as “virtual reality” and “real-Life situational” training… and very, very few training methods can put a person into a REAL “Adrenaline Rush” experience! So it is almost unrealistic to expect every person that has had perfect or near perfect shooting experiences at a firing ranch to also be near perfect under Life-or-Death Stress!
I HAVE been under pretty extreme stress a number of times…but it has been many years since the last time… And I can assure you I would Not be as ‘cool under stress’ as I have been in the past!
I had a ‘false alarm’ moment just a few nights ago, when I heard a loud and unfamiliar noise at around 2:30am … I could tell what it was nor how close it was, because by the time I was wide awake the sound was over… But I did a House Clearing and a partial perimeter check with a powerful [blinding] flashlight…
And my adrenaline levels kept me wide awake for almost an hour…
As for Deerfield Infringing on its residents… All I can say is I would Never Live within 200 miles of Chicago even if someone gave me the house for FREE!
And many of my firearms are not even listed with NICS… I either owned them before Background Checks were required in GA, or I built them myself.
I actually use an AR for home defense. They can be behind a wall and not be out of reach. It’as quick to grab as anything and I can rain hell fire with it. You just have to realize where you are pointing and not shoot another house. I get it and have a defense plan. GOD HELP YOU, if you try! Have a JUDGE for a back-up.
Don’t count out 00buckshot. Itll go through walls also…and then some…
I have my “assault” weapon, that in fact isn’t an “assault weapon” by the definition of the phrase, in a very fast go bag they would definitely be the go to to defend my family. In fact my wife has a really hard time chambering most handguns, while she has no problem operating any of my rifles.
Come and try ass holes. A big surprise,awaits you. I want the main pusher up front. The 2nd ammendment surpaeses any laws made. Without it YOU DIE!
When guns are outlawed….only outlaws will HAVE guns! Old saying but still so very true! Criminal outlaws don’t give a s**t about laws! The love an un-armed person most of all!!
The citizens of Deerfield,Ill.need to sue the town for ILLEGALLY violating their second amendment rights.
Governments,be them local,state or federal CANNOT take the rights of the people,they can only secure them.The town government of Deerfield needs to read the Constitution of the United States of America,the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence to KNOW what they can and cannot do.What the town has done,is make it’s citizens FAR LESS safe,because criminals now have the upper hand.If the town continues to violate the people’s rights,everyone should pull up stakes,and leave Deerfield a ghost town.
Until they come for your shotgun
I guess it is time to move on away from Chicago
Bullshit stand and fight !!! The CONSTITUTION is on your side !!
David,
I am sure that this will end up in a lawsuit and the Second Amendment is not going away.
I’m with you on this, I’m just surprised no one has approached the cops and asked them if they’re going to enforce this illegal order? It’s not a law, they can’t make law? Unless Illinois is so fuked up a city is aloud to make laws? If I was an officer in that town I’d make the mayor come with me to take a citizen weapon, cause I’d not enforce that!
That’s right David Leonard, “the only thing worse than an evil intruder trying to trespass against you, if for a good man to sit by and do nothing.” Our forefathers put those laws in the constitution fora good reason. And they pout those rights in there after careful though in retrospect of history pass. They knew what they were doing and for Chicago to go against it is treason.
This type of Triantical Government is exactly why the Framers of the Constitution put the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights the residents of Deerfield need to contact the State Attorney and set up a RECALL vote and get all of the Liberals out off that Council and BLACK BALL them from ever running again and vote some PROVEN 2nd Amendment supporters in
Do you guys like blue cars? When it rains, I enjoy sculpting clay indoors.
Oh? Deerfield just infringed your constitutional rights. They’re sworn administrators who’ve just violated their oaths; Traitors willing to deprive your life and liberty. Our enemy is already in our house.
Everyone boycott anything to do with this town for starters , God knows who want to go there now anyway as only criminals will have guns ! People of that town hunker down stay togather , they tryed the same thing if you remember awhile back I thi k it was Roadiland or some were and all the residents said come and get them ! Well last I heard the police got smart and said that’s ok keep them .
File law suits and get your states Militias involved .
Make a stand ! The whole nation should make a stand with you ! And most importantly VOTE OUT ALL THE CRAZY ANTI AMERICAN LIBERALS !!!
Seems to me they can’t take any weapon because there’s no such thing as an “assault” weapon until it had been used to assault someone.
Therefore they have no legal ramification to take any weapon that hasn’t been used in an assault.
Well I certainly hope the person the infringes on your rights doesn’t suprise you to where you are in a confined area and can’t so much as get that shitgun up and pointed before he removes it from your hands. Plus, it will be mighty difficult for you to carry that shotgun around your hosue while you are doing your chores outside. Add to that what people mught think as you are walking around in public while you are toting that 12 gauge around. What if someone breaks into your house while you are in the shower and they grab your wife. They are now holding her in front of them while you are aiming that scatter gun. How wil that work?
I too have a locked and loaded shotgun near my bed. Byt I also have a 9MM in my rollator as well as a small .380 that I keep on my side as I stroll around in public. So many people beleive that when a person is confronted with a life altering situation, one like someone attacking you or a family member, they will be fortunate to have everything go like it does in ones mind. It doesn’t work like that and anyone that beleives it does is insane. Even in the situation of someone holding a loved one in front of them, I ight, MIGHT have a chance ofusing my green dot laser to protect everyone. That is only if everything is perfect and it happens within seconds.
I personally want/need every option I can make available to myself in the case of someone threatening my life or the life of my loved ones. I also hope that I have the wherewithal to have the tool, courage and the mental stability I may need if and when any situation arises.
With all that said, why in God’s name can I not have any weapon within reason to go to the firing range and unload some rounds? Why is it that my 9MM with a 15+1 capacity a firearm that should be rendered illegal? Why is my 30-06 a rifle that should be outlawed thuse eliminating my ability to hunt? I don’t break laws. I don’t hurt people. I don’t curse people out. I don’t do anything to harm anyone at any time. But someone who does will do it over and over and over again and they MIGHT, just MIGHT spend a couple of years in jail.
When do the bans stop? What will be next? Knives? More people are killed each year in the US by knives than by firearms. In the US there were 374 people killed by rifles of any sort. There were 1,604 deaths by knives or other cutting instruments and 656 killed by fists feet, etc. Most firearms deaths were by handguns and most of them were bought illegally. The overwhelmingly extreme majority of legal handgun owners never fire there weapon at another human being. In 2015, (latest year I could find) 10,265 were killed in the US in alcohol related automotive accidents. That’s 29% of all traffic related deaths. So when are they going to ban alcohol? Did you know that about 1/3 of DUI or DWI tickets are issued to repat offenders?
The anti-gun people distort information about weapons all the time. The letters AR in AR-15 don’t stand for assault rifle. They stand for Amralite Rifle. Assault rifles are automatic rilfles that can not be bought legally by most people. Senator Kevin De Leon told people the so called “ghost rifle” he was holding, which I “think” was a mere .223, could fire a 30 round “clip” as he called it, in a half of a second. He said it was a .30 caliber but I’m not sure of that. Byt his information of calling it a ghist gun was stupid at best but 30 rounds in half a second???????
Sorry I wenton and on and I could actually go on a lot longer. I am just sick and tired of all the lies being spewed to people that truly just don’t know about firearms. Then they hear all of these lies and they beleive them because they don’t think these senators and gun control idiots would lie to them. Have a debate, but have that debate using facts, not lies or fabrications. Do you know how many times I hear from people that “the officer should have shot him in the leg. Theguy didn’t have to shoot so many times. One shot would have killed the guy. This isn’t TV. It doesn;t work like that. I guess those same people think cowboys on the back of horses actually threw those bullets out of the gun accuratley and killed them all with one shot.
What part of “not be infringed” is not clear to these people? If they want to make it safe, pass a law that all criminals or people who intend to be criminals must turn in their weapons and if not they will face fines and jail time. I’m sure they will comply. Remember in the SECONDS it takes someone to assault you or break into your home the police are just MINUTES away. If you are lucky.
Just outrageous. Government overreach at it’s worst. No regard for the Constitution, the citizenry or their safety. What if people don’t turn them in, will the state come and attempt to remove the firearms? That could get ugly in a big hurry…
Who ever did should be ARRESTED ! ! ! ! Where are the cops ? Or the CITIZENS can do it ! ! ! ! ™®👍
forget words… time to expunge those who who would harm us. these so called mouth piece leaders must be punished.The EU has its own constitution. that is why our sold out politicians and educators want to destroy our Constitution, the 2nd amendment. WAKE UP AND KNOW YOUR ENEMY. THE EU.. Why is the President not doing a call to Arms. what is he waiting for?? we can not act alone as individuals. it has to happen from our President. if we wait, we end up like the Jews in Nazi Germany, disarmed, starved and herded…..WTF. Constitution is being attacked by???who??? Who has a constitution already to govern all nations?? The EU has a constitution of it’s own and it is using communist ideals and radical Islam to Hollow those nations who oppose them. the problem is all because their is, NO CONSEQUENCES. The sold out EU organizations,like MSM, Hollywood, the communist educators and Judges, NEVER PAY FOR THE WRONG DOING. Where is the leader to start the war to rid the country of the EU INSURRECTION in this country. WAKE UP AND KNOW YOUR ENEMY. THE EU. The major hindrance is we have no geographical line like the Civil War between the North and South.
Come on Deerfield, just ban crime instead of failing baby steps.
hopefully the city council are the first murdered by the looters (wait they had guns and save themselves and their family and the one that had their prediction take away were the ones to be murdered, raped and eliminated city council picks up more votes from the unlawful.
This is what happens when law abiding citizens register their weapons. I tried to warn you all. NEVER, EVER, EVER REGISTER YOUR WEAPONS!!!
The United States Constitution is the document that the Supreme Court (allegedly) looks to to determine the the validity of all laws brought before it. As such, it is the highest law of the land, and, obviously, is FEDERAL LAW. Therefore, violation of the Constitution is a violation of Federal law, and, it logically follows, a felony. Somebody needs to call in Federal Marshals, to arrest the perps in the city council who voted for that ridiculous (and subversive) illegality.
https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/2nd-amendment/ 1. Gun control is not an enumerated power delegated to the federal government
Our federal Constitution doesn’t delegate to the federal government any power over the Country at Large 2 to restrict our arms. Accordingly, all pretended federal laws, regulations, orders, opinions, or treaties which purport to do so are unconstitutional as outside the scope of powers delegated. They are also unconstitutional as in violation of the Second Amendment.
The only power the federal government has over the Country at Large respecting arms is set forth at Article I, §8, clause 16 with respect to providing for the “organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia”. Pursuant to this clause, Congress passed the Militia Act of 1792 which required every able-bodied male citizen (with a few exceptions) between the ages of 18 and 45 to acquire a rifle, bayonet, ammo, ammo pouch, and report to his local Militia Unit for training. 2. What does your State Constitution say about the right to keep and bear arms?
Each State has its own Constitution which addresses its State Militia and the right to be armed.
Now listen: No State may lawfully make any law which contradicts its State Constitution or which interferes with Congress’ power to “organize, arm, and discipline, the Militia”.
Accordingly, any State Statute which purports to require a permit before one may carry a gun is probably unconstitutional under that State’s Constitution; and is certainly unconstitutional under the federal Constitution because Congress may lawfully require able-bodied male Citizens to acquire firearms and ammo and report to their local Militia Unit for training!
I am trying to recall what the legal barrel length for a shotgun I think 16″, any way I am with James, the sound of using a 50 calibre Desert Eagle sounds cool, but between the adrenaline rush and the kick of the pistol good luck ever hitting your intended target more likely to hit the wall or ceiling if not a loved one.
If you want to talk about protecting the lives of cognizant patriotic citizens those who abide by the laws of the land starting with the articles of the United States Constitution then every last Moonie Muslime should be booted all the way to the land of rock, sand, oil, and seawater, none have ever pledged allegiance to the articles of our Constitution they adhere to only sharia law and the ideology of islam and as for for making like they are swearing on the bible they are practicing taqiyya where lying to kafirs with the intent to deceive and lull the infidels into a false sense of security is encouraged and considered just, those CAIR compounds are the 1st places our government should raid, disarm, round up the members, shackle march to buses to be transported to cargo planes to be flown and dropped in the middle of the cesspool they or their forefathers came from, refuel while in flight non-stop just get them as far away from non-Moonie Muslimes as possible, all sympathizers should be put under constant watch, anyone who says anything good about Moonie Muslimes and their ideology the same thing, if discovered they recluse Moonie Muslimes stripped of citizenship and to the cesspool Middle East for them as well.
Legal action might, should put a stop to this foolishness, but then looking at some court decisions, one wonders. When are the next town official elections?
sounds like Chicago another place ru8n by Demoncrats.
LET THEM COME AND TAKE THEM. SHOW THEM WHAT THEY ARE FOR……..AFTER A FEW DROP, THE DAMN THING WILL STOP.
As worded, “assault weapons” were banned in the 1930’s. Semi-automatic shot guns are capable of holding 3 rounds and rifles/carbines are capable of holding 10 rounds or less to be legal. Are thugs and criminals expected to turn in their guns too ? Like their “big sissy” (Chicago), expect their crime rate to go up. Maybe they should look to the south (near Atlanta) where guns REQUIRED laws have almost STOPPED crime. Those two cities have a 2% crime rate that includes parking tickets. The SAME “LOGIC” = spoons make people fat.
I had my house broke into which is strange because everybody that knows of me won’t even come down my street. I went and paid a visit to one of the low-life types and passed on a message. The next day around dinner time one of them brought my stuff back. He said he gave them the message on my behalf, and he was not involved with it or them. Well you see, I’m an old Biker and a war time Vet and this guy that brought back my stuff, (rifle, pistol, tranny) said he knew what was coming if I didn’t get it all back. The two guys that did this left the state, I guess they didn’t want to talk about it. Two different times I stopped armed guys from getting stupid at friend’s house and never took my weapon off my belt. My weapon of choice, yep a 22, the same caliber I hunt with and I get my deer every time so don’t let anyone fool you, a 22 is just as lethal as anything else. Just doesn’t tear up the meat as much.
Shall not be infringed…..
Why do people insist that you must be trained in order to exercise your Second Amendment rights? The Second Amendment to our Constitution does not require us to be trained. While training with weapons is useful and should be undertaken, in no way should it be used to deny the people of their right to bear and keep arms. Do you deserve to have weapons? No! But you do have the God given right to do so!
I see my first post was “moderated” out of this thread. Well, I’m back!
Deerfield has blatantly violated the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and specifically the Second Amendment. “Turn your guns in or be “fined”. NEVER. I would move out of that town, had I been a resident, or started a class action lawsuit against the City. The NRA and the Gun Owners of America can cooperate on this and make Deerfield miserably sorry that they would ever strip their citizens of their Constitutional Rights.
Right now, criminals and terrorists are flocking around Deerfield, waiting to commit their crimes against the disarmed citizens, because they are ripe for the picking – having lost (or will have lost) their right to protect themselves against the “wretched refuse” of our society. I doubt very much that the city has increased their police force at all – leaving their citizens at the mercy of the criminal element. My hometown of Fishers, NY wouldn’t DARE to do this, or they would be slowly roasted over an open fire – rotisserie style.
we the law abiding people have got to stop the madness and get the nonamericains out of government. if people think getting rid of guns will make us safe they are crazy. we will have to get rid of rocks,sticks,cars,etc and finally our hands will be cut off because people can use many things to kill people. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!!!!
I have always feared that it would come to this. The town clowns are showing their stupidity in this matter. and even a couple of judges have gone along with the theory that the Second Amendment is out of date and should be elemented from the constitution. But if these know it all politicians are this afraid of the citizens of their little town because they might have a nasty ugly rifle stored in their homes they do not deserve to be in that office. file suit for a recall election and geet conservatives into those representative seats
Deerfield Illinois is obviously being run by sissified liberal twits. They do have one redeeming value. They never leave the toilet seat up. That’s because they have no reason to lift it!
good point Joe, but it may go over a few heads,,lol
The people that run this town in Illanois should be jailed for breaking national laws.
Does Molon Labe, You Want Them, Come Get Them ring familiar? Bear with me re possible misspellings.
there are states that you can move to that are not as restrictive as that bastion of liberal numbwits that deerfield is in. best thing to do is relocate if you can. check the “survival blog ” to find out which ones are best.
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